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Solenopsis geminata and ecosystem resilience


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#1 Offline Ernteameise - Posted June 15 2023 - 12:53 AM

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The unfortunate discussion at the other thread about invasive ants (versus natives) got me thinking about this species and what I have learned from reading the books by E.O. Wilson.

 

I do NOT want this thread devolve into another mud fight. Yes, invasive species are bad.

I actually did my PhD on invasive bird parasites in New Zealand (and did dissect the dead endangered birds on the post mortem slab), so just leave it at that.

 

No, I want to talk about Solenopsis geminata and their adaptation to new lands and something I think is called eco-system resilience?

I recently read "Tales from the Ant World" by Edward O. Wilson and it has this species as an example on the might of invasive species.

He talked about how this ant was introduced by the Spanish conquerors to some Caribbean islands and how these ants terrorized the new Spanish settlers and that they had to give up some of their new settlements.

So this species of ant brought the conquerors to their knees, after they unwillingly and accidently introduced them to the new lands.

 

But E.O. Wilson is also talking about what happened next.

 

Today, several hundred years later, this species of ant is still there, on the same islands, and has itself established.

The ants are still annoying, but they somehow are now integrated into the new status quo of the (changed) ecosystem there.

The painful reports of the plague sent from God are a thing of the past.

 

I have seen a similar thing with my native birds, that the ones that survived just were more resilient and got on with it, even if many of them now need human management to survive.

 

I find this utterly fascinating (well, that is the reason I studied this topic in the first place) but I agree with E.O.Wilson that while some of the invasive species spell doom and gloom (as they did for the Spanish conquerors) there is a sliver of hope, some dim light at the horizon from this story about S. geminata.

 

(I am NOT advocating stopping the vigilance or release of invasives or "nature will find a way" by the way, I am just saying there is SOME hope)

 

My question to the US (and other countries where S. geminata was introduced) members out there is-

what are your experiences with these invasives?

Have you seen any kind of ecosystem resilience?

Are local species fighting back?

Is there a change in the aggressiveness of the invasives over the years?

Can you reproduce the observations E.O. Wilson had?

What are your thoughts?

 

This is just some professional interest, I do not want to stir the proverbial wet droppings so to speak.


Edited by Ernteameise, June 15 2023 - 1:11 AM.

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#2 Offline Jonathan5608 - Posted June 15 2023 - 5:02 AM

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I know this is specifically about Solenopsis geminata but this question has been bugging for some time know. While some invasives can be checked by a strong environment, sometimes natives I think can be destructive. Lasius(I believe neoniger) absolutely dominate not only my backyard, but absolutely every where I go. Every spot is covered with there holes. I find that usually lasius dominates 50% of ant diversity and the rest is assorted but heavily dominated by invasives such as tetras and flavipes. This is anecdotal so maybe my pictures is small but does anyone else think lasius is a bit out of control.

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#3 Offline AntPerson76 - Posted June 15 2023 - 8:33 AM

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It wasn't until last week I realized the only native ants I have in my yard are campnotus, Pheidole, and Lasius, which as Jonathan5608 said, they are absolutely dominant. I have seen Solenopsis geminata in my yard before, but haven't really seen them as destructive as some others like tetramorium. But I know they are also working to destroy the ecosystem there. They make giant mounds, and I never see any other ants, even tetramorium nesting around them. 


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#4 Offline Serafine - Posted June 15 2023 - 9:15 AM

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First of all, this is for Ants.co, on the reason why we don't release ants, not even natives.

This is from an actual entomologist.

 

So the reason we don't re-release ants once they've been in captivity is several-fold.

First of all, let's deal with the big thing: if you buy ants from online, they're very unlikely to be local, even if they're the same species. I can buy a Lasius niger from online, which is about as abundant as you can get in the UK, but that doesn't mean I can introduce them locally. The reason for this is that local populations of a given animal have local genetics to that region. Despite being the same species, their traits can differ quite a bit between even local regions, and that, twinned with the fact that eusociality generally results in a low number of individuals within a given area (with colonies being individuals vs actual individual ants), you can seriously disrupt the local balance of genes in a given area, especially as you've released a aet of ants post-founding  eliminating natural selection for a large part of their life-cycle.

But let's say you caught your niger queen from your garden, why is it important that you don't re-release? The previous argument actually still holds (you've removed them into a more febrile environment for a part of their lifecycle), but more importantly you're changing the parasitic balance of your local ecosystem.

So what the [censored] does that mean? Basically, the conditions that you raise your ants in will be very different from the native environment of the ants. As a result, parasites (mites, fungi, bacteria) are way more likely to propagate. It's not a problem for your ants cause they have an abundance of food, clean water etc.,  but it allows populations of these diseases to propagate in a way they wouldn't have the ability to in the wild. When you re-release, you can seriously disrupt your local invertebrate ecosystem by introducing your biological-weapon ants on it.

 

And it gets even worse with invasives, as those usually carry parasites the native ants are not adapted to and that will impact the remaining native ants much harder than they do the invasives that know how to deal with them.

 

In fact quite often the invasive species themselves aren't even the problem, but their parasites or supporting species are - this is for example true for asian river crabs in Europe, which themselves aren't causing much damage but they act as an intermediate host for a swim bladder worm that has basically already wiped out the european eel (we throw billions of young glass eel into the rivers every year but there's currently no proof that even a single one of them is able to make the journey across the ocean and back).

 

It is also true for Yellow Crazy ants on Christmas Island although in a reverse way - the ants themselves are a problem but the reason they can grow so out of control and are threatening to exterminate the islands native red crabs is their symbiosis with another invasive insect, an asian lac scale insect. Targeting those scale insects first is actually showing more promise than fighting the ants directly.

 

 

Generally ecosystem resilience is a very wide and complex topic. Yes, you can make assumptions on which species have a high chance to become problematic invasives, based on certain traits (ants tick literally every single box on that list) but you can never really know.

Occasionally you get species that will totally surprise you (like this totally unspectacular european herb i forgot the name of, which when introduced to Hawaii suddenly evolved lignified stems and developed into some kind of 2-3 meter high miniature tree completely taking over steep hillsides and driving out almost every other plant from this specific niche).

 

Solenopsis invicta - and by extent probably geminata as they are very similar - in many areas is loosing their major caste. This makes their average workers smaller, easier to accidentally be transported from one place to another by humans and even cheaper for an even higher ants-per-area ecosystem domination (and from what i've read Myrmica rubra in Canada is going for smaller workers as well). In areas they have completely taken over they are also becoming increasingly polygynous and have less flights but rely more on budding off fledgling colonies (both of these cases are what "phenoytype plasticity" means, the ability to change form to suit new environments/conditions/situations).

So technically there isn't even one type of Solenopsis invicta, there are multiple. Solenopsis geminata is likely to follow that path.

 

 

Then there's also the issue of keystone species - sometimes a predator or parasite decimating a single species central to an ecosystem can change that entire ecosystem and kick off a cascade that completely obliterates existing food chains and most of the species within it. There's an example with sea otters keeping sea urchins in check, which if the sea otters are gone basically eat up the entire plantlife that makes up the sea floor and thus collapses the whole ecosystem but the absolute best example is what happened when yellowjacket wasps got introduced to New Zealand. They didn't exactly wipe out a keystone species but they gobbled up the entirety of the honeydew a single species of the tree bark plantsuckers produced, effectively taking them out of the ecosystem and thus starving out the entire food chain right from the bottom. If nothing had been done New Zealand's woodland ecosystems would not exist today.

I consider Lasius niger a keystone ant species in central european urban and suburban environments. They absolutely dominate most inner city areas and are an effective barrier against most invasive ants, which tend to establish themselves in urban/suburban areas (or generally any area disturbed by human activity) first and then radiate outwards into more "natural" environments. If some introduced parasite wiped out Lasius niger the long-term consequences would probably be pretty bad.

 

In the US there was a huge panic about invasive ants in the 1930/40s which resulted in massive amounts of poison being sprayed across the landscape and it mostly killed local ants, offering the imported fire ant species an easy landgrab. Looking back, this whole campaign was a really really bad idea.

 

 

And then there's the last thing - time. The fire ant species those spanish settlers encountered just have a roughly 500 years headstart compared to the ones that are invading the southern US right now.

Yes, after a certain time every dominant invader will inevitably integrate itself into some sort of functioning ecosystem (or create one around itself, or die out), there is no question about this. The question is how many species had to go extinct to make that happen.

Even if the introduction of an invasive organism results in the complete meltdown and utter destruction of an ecosystem, given a few hundred years a new landscape will emerge and you'll hardly notice the traces of any disaster that took place.
The issue is the old ecosystem - which in case of islands specifically tends to be a very unique one with endemic species that could only be found there and nowhere else in the world - is gone, and it's not coming back. Most of the species that made it up are lost forever and those that made it may have changed beyond recognition (like the chichlids of Lake Victoria which got absolutely massacred by the intentionally introduced invasive Nil perch, causing species boundaries to break down entirely, resulting a wild array of completely unique new chichlid fish that are slowly establishing themselves into new species at the fringes of an utterly devastated ecosystem. Ironically by now the Nil perch is about to go the way of the Dodo after basically eating up the entirety of the Lake's freshwater fish population, which should send a very clear message to everyone that crap like this just isn't sustainable).


Edited by Serafine, June 15 2023 - 11:55 AM.

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#5 Offline Aaron567 - Posted June 15 2023 - 10:51 AM

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Recently I've been investigating the origins of the local southeastern US Solenopsis geminata, a species that the ant hobby and scientific community has largely considered to be native to Florida and even more widespread beyond Florida prior to the invasion of S. invicta. While there seems to be at least two or three distinct geminata populations in Florida with different origins, there is one reddish-colored variant that is particularly widespread and is probably the same variant that lost most of its southeastern territory to S. invicta over the last 80 years or so. Nowadays, these geminata are generally only found in relatively small pockets of dry natural habitats scattered around the inland areas of north and central Florida (presumably the areas that are the least favorable for S. invicta) alongside native ant species.

 

Superficially, it would make sense to consider these geminata native due to them more or less having the distribution, habitat preferences, and behavior of a native ant. Upon examining the data collected from a 2015 genetic study on S. geminata by Gotzek et al., however, it becomes evident that these "native" geminata might not be native after all. Instead of being closely related to Caribbean or Texan geminata (the geographically closest populations) they are actually most closely related to the geminata found all the way down in South America. For the Floridian geminata to be truly native to Florida with this phylogenetic placement, a strange series of extirpation events would've had to have happened throughout the Caribbean islands... that is, unless the sampling from that study simply failed to include all possible Caribbean variants, which is entirely possible.

(note: To clear up potential confusion, the geminata in south Texas are almost certainly native and are in fact not closely related to the geminata in Florida. Also, the Floridian geminata I'm talking about in this post are a completely different variant from the one that is widespread in Asia and Oceania.)

 

So, if these Floridian sandhill geminata really were actually introduced to Florida hundreds of years ago during the early years of the colonial era, it's quite fascinating that their remaining (perhaps shrinking) populations are using the most untouched and isolated natural habitats as their final refuges and behaving like a native species. Most other non-native ants fail to penetrate deeply into Florida's natural habitats, especially those in north and central Florida. All of this has made me wonder if the amount of time this South American geminata variant has been in Florida (up to several hundred years) has caused the geminata to become "pacified," or less invasive, as if the ecosystem has adjusted to more properly integrate them into the local ecological balance. A few hundred years seems like a long time to us, but on an evolutionary or geological time scale it is much more brief than the blink of an eye. Is only a few hundred years enough time for a native ecosystem to begin to integrate an invasive species? Maybe with future studies of the Floridian and Caribbean Solenopsis geminata populations we can obtain an answer to that question.


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#6 Offline Ernteameise - Posted June 16 2023 - 3:19 AM

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Thank you all for your input!

This was very great providing some food for thought!






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