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[Quackmin]

Spotted a Nylanderia flavipes flight today and caught a 12 queens. I was wondering if there a Polygynous type of ant? If so how many per test tube should I put in?

[Jonathan5608]

Spotted a Nylanderia flavipes flight today and caught a 12 queens. I was wondering if there a Polygynous type of ant? If so how many per test tube should I put in?

yes. I have two four queen colonies. 1 12 queen colony and another 10 plus queen colony. Depending on how many colonies you want I would do a 4 4 4

Edited by Jonathan5608, May 22 2023 - 11:57 AM.

[ANTdrew]

Spotted a Nylanderia flavipes flight today and caught a 12 queens. I was wondering if there a Polygynous type of ant? If so how many per test tube should I put in?

yes. I have two four queen colonies. 1 12 queen colony and another 10 plus queen colony. Depending on how many colonies you want I would do a 4 4 4

How long have you had these multi-queen colonies?

[Jonathan5608]

Spotted a Nylanderia flavipes flight today and caught a 12 queens. I was wondering if there a Polygynous type of ant? If so how many per test tube should I put in?

yes. I have two four queen colonies. 1 12 queen colony and another 10 plus queen colony. Depending on how many colonies you want I would do a 4 4 4

How long have you had these multi-queen colonies?

sry I should of put founding queens. these I just caught but last year I had a two queen colony for months. Unfortunately mold killed them. I’m quite sure that there polygynous.

Edited by Jonathan5608, May 22 2023 - 2:36 PM.

[ANTdrew]

I have my doubts about them being polygynous.

[Jonathan5608]

I have my doubts about them being polygynous.

isn’t that the whole niche and defining feature that this ant species is unusually polygynous. Not their main defining feature but one of their defining features.

Edited by Jonathan5608, May 22 2023 - 5:44 PM.

[OiledOlives]

Spotted a Nylanderia flavipes flight today and caught a 12 queens. I was wondering if there a Polygynous type of ant? If so how many per test tube should I put in?

No, the invasive populations in the US are secondarily monogynous, meaning that they will only cooperate during founding and will turn on each other once two or three generations of workers emerge. You can do however many you would like but I put mine in groups of 2 to 3.

[Flu1d]

Spotted a Nylanderia flavipes flight today and caught a 12 queens. I was wondering if there a Polygynous type of ant? If so how many per test tube should I put in?

No, the invasive populations in the US are secondarily monogynous, meaning that they will only cooperate during founding and will turn on each other once two or three generations of workers emerge. You can do however many you would like but I put mine in groups of 2 to 3.

Secondarily monogynous, is that another term for pleometrotic?

[OiledOlives]

It's the correct term for what hobbyists use pleometrotic for, yes

[Mettcollsuss]

Secondarily monogynous, is that another term for pleometrotic?

The technical definitions are

Haplometrosis: colony founded by 1 queen
Pleometrosis: colony founded by 2+ queens
Primary monogyny: colony starts with 1 queen and never gets any more
Secondary monogyny: colony starts with 2+ queens, extras are killed off until 1 remains
Primary polygyny: Colony starts with 2+ queens and never accepts more
Secondary polygyny: Colony accepts extra queens later on
Oligogyny: Workers tolerate multiple queens but other queens do not, thus queens are kept in separate parts of the nest

Hobbyists often use pleometrosis to mean secondary monogyny.

[Flu1d]

I see, its good to have all of the terms at one time in front of you like that. Thank you for your detailed reply.