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What ant species is this?

Started By TinaBlackthorne , Jan 9 2023 5:11 AM

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#1 Offline TinaBlackthorne - Posted January 9 2023 - 5:11 AM

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Size: 9-10mm
When: 7 January (around 2am)
Where: Dubai, found in desert
Appearance: dark red coloring, can't see nodes (hidden behind wings)
Behaviour: was calm the whole time
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#2 Offline ANTdrew - Posted January 9 2023 - 5:27 AM

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This looks like some sort of Crematogaster to me.


"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
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#3 Offline Ant-nig321 - Posted January 9 2023 - 5:46 AM

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Crematogaster idk the species!

#4 Offline TinaBlackthorne - Posted January 9 2023 - 6:26 AM

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Alright, thanks guys I’ll look into the genus more.

#5 Offline Manitobant - Posted January 9 2023 - 6:41 AM

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These guys are relatively easy to care for. Fully claustral and grow quite fast.
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My journals:

Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/

#6 Offline TinaBlackthorne - Posted January 9 2023 - 8:12 AM

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That’s good since this is the first queen I’ve ever found and (hopefully) going to be my fist ever ant colony.

 

Also, I’ve looked through the Crematogaster genus and there were some close calls but they had little hairs and mine doesn’t. So I might need some more help on finding the species.


#7 Offline Ant-nig321 - Posted January 9 2023 - 8:50 AM

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Could be C.cerasi.This species has hairs,are you sure yours don't?

#8 Offline Manitobant - Posted January 9 2023 - 9:45 AM

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Could be C.cerasi.This species has hairs,are you sure yours don't?

this is in dubai…
My journals:

Polyergus Mexicanus: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry175528
Lasius minutus: https://www.formicul...cs/#entry174811
Lasius latipes: https://www.formicul...gs/#entry206449
General acanthomyops journal: https://www.formicul...yops-with-eggs/

#9 Offline TacticalHandleGaming - Posted January 9 2023 - 10:32 AM

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Maybe Crematogaster mimosae? Just trying to compare your photos/color info to that on antweb. 


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L. neoniger, P. occidentalis, C. modoc, C. novaeboracensis, C. vicinus, T. immigrans, A. occidentalis, S. molesta, P. imparis, M. kennedyi, M semirufus, F. pacifica, P. californica, M. ergatogyna.

 

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T. rugatulus, B. depilis.

 

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Myrmecocystus pyramicus, Myrmecocystus testaceus

Pheidole creightoni, Pheidole inquilina, Crematogaster coarctata, Crematogaster mutans

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#10 Offline Ant-nig321 - Posted January 9 2023 - 12:07 PM

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Could be C.cerasi.This species has hairs,are you sure yours don't?

this is in dubai…
Oh.....then idk the species

#11 Offline madbiologist - Posted January 9 2023 - 2:17 PM

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I'm not specifically familiar with Crematogaster from the middle east, but generally species identification in that genus is difficult, and identifying a queen even more so. I think your best bet is to wait until she gets workers, and then take photos of a dead worker with a microscope.


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#12 Offline TinaBlackthorne - Posted January 9 2023 - 8:04 PM

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I'm not specifically familiar with Crematogaster from the middle east, but generally species identification in that genus is difficult, and identifying a queen even more so. I think your best bet is to wait until she gets workers, and then take photos of a dead worker with a microscope.

Aright, I’ll do that and post it on here.

Do I have to use a microscope or was the lens I used to take pictures of the queen fine?


#13 Offline ANTdrew - Posted January 10 2023 - 1:33 PM

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For Crematogaster, you’ll need a microscope and a prayer to get an ID.
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#14 Offline TinaBlackthorne - Posted January 10 2023 - 8:24 PM

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Lol, alright I’ll try to find a cheap one soon.


#15 Offline Chickalo - Posted January 12 2023 - 1:20 PM

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If you're in High School, or even the older grades of Middle School (I think the UAE has a similar school system to America?), ask the science teachers if they have any.  It saves money and would likely be a higher quality than cheap ones online.


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#16 Offline TinaBlackthorne - Posted January 12 2023 - 7:33 PM

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Good idea (and yes, they do) I’ll just ask the next time I have a science lesson


#17 Offline PurdueEntomology - Posted January 13 2023 - 11:58 PM

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This looks like some sort of Crematogaster to me.

If it survives and drops wings Crematogaster will be confirmed.


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