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#1 Offline Jonny8040 - Posted May 19 2022 - 9:16 AM

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Hey guys,
I am not new to ant keeping as I have done it for years. I have always wanted to raise a Pheidole colony but have failed at finding any every single year. I live in southwest VA and was wondering any tips anybody could give me for Pheidole Queen catching.

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#2 Offline OiledOlives - Posted May 19 2022 - 9:22 AM

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Blacklighting at dusk to 11 in June-July will yield pretty big numbers of P. bicarinata. 
P. tysoni fly in the early morning, at 3-5 am.
Pilifera fly during warm weather right after huge thunderstorms in July I believe. They have been reported to even be flying in the rain.

Not sure about the fallax group in VA (dentata and morrisii) and davisi.


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#3 Offline AntsCali098 - Posted May 19 2022 - 11:16 AM

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P.navigans in my experience fly early-late afternoon. July is the best time for navigans. Not sure if they are in Virginia though


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#4 Offline ANTdrew - Posted May 19 2022 - 12:05 PM

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Blacklighting at dusk to 11 in June-July will yield pretty big numbers of P. bicarinata.
P. tysoni fly in the early morning, at 3-5 am.
Pilifera fly during warm weather right after huge thunderstorms in July I believe. They have been reported to even be flying in the rain.
Not sure about the fallax group in VA (dentata and morrisii) and davisi.

I second all this. Definitely try blacklighting.
"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
Keep ordinary ants in extraordinary ways.

#5 Offline Jonny8040 - Posted May 19 2022 - 12:22 PM

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Blacklighting at dusk to 11 in June-July will yield pretty big numbers of P. bicarinata.
P. tysoni fly in the early morning, at 3-5 am.
Pilifera fly during warm weather right after huge thunderstorms in July I believe. They have been reported to even be flying in the rain.
Not sure about the fallax group in VA (dentata and morrisii) and davisi.

I second all this. Definitely try blacklighting.

I bought a blacklight but never tried it. Just a big white sheet with the blacklight in the middle in the field? I live in a farm so that won’t be an issue
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#6 Offline OiledOlives - Posted May 19 2022 - 1:40 PM

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I second all this. Definitely try blacklighting.

I bought a blacklight but never tried it. Just a big white sheet with the blacklight in the middle in the field? I live in a farm so that won’t be an issue

 

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#7 Offline ANTdrew - Posted May 19 2022 - 1:57 PM

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Hook it up, and you’ll probably see more Pheidole than you ever thought were there.
"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
Keep ordinary ants in extraordinary ways.

#8 Offline OiledOlives - Posted May 19 2022 - 2:09 PM

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I blacklighted during Pheidole flights last year and only got Colobopsis and Temnothorax



#9 Offline DarkCerebral - Posted May 26 2022 - 7:09 PM

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Are there any Pheidole flying this time of year already. I found one tonight during a light rain shower. Looks bicarinata but I thought they were later summer.

 

Also, I have  invested in some black lights. This information will be useful to stock up on more P opportunities.


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#10 Offline ANTdrew - Posted May 27 2022 - 2:01 AM

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Pheidole species are certainly flying down south where you are. Blacklights are great for finding them.
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#11 Offline DarkCerebral - Posted May 27 2022 - 6:42 AM

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Pheidole species are certainly flying down south where you are. Blacklights are great for finding them.

 

what's the success rate you think of mated P. queens when blacklighting? I will likely give this a go tonight as well.



#12 Offline ANTdrew - Posted May 27 2022 - 6:46 AM

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In my experience, about 80% are able to successfully found.
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#13 Offline DarkCerebral - Posted May 28 2022 - 4:52 PM

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Any luck yet Jonny8040? I tried black light setup in backyard for the first time and had no luck.  Her is my setup if anyone has advice.

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#14 Offline FloridaAnts - Posted May 29 2022 - 12:21 PM

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Are there any Pheidole flying this time of year already. I found one tonight during a light rain shower. Looks bicarinata but I thought they were later summer.

Also, I have invested in some black lights. This information will be useful to stock up on more P opportunities.

I have been coming across pheidole queens since early march. I haven’t really been looking recently, but I did see one by my door last night.

What state? People claim 6 AM is the best time for P. Floridana

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#15 Offline Jonny8040 - Posted May 29 2022 - 4:31 PM

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Any luck yet Jonny8040? I tried black light setup in backyard for the first time and had no luck. Her is my setup if anyone has advice.


I haven’t yet. I have misplaced the black light I had so I have two more ordered and should be here tomorrow Lord willing. I’m gonna try some this week as it’s supposed to be really pretty where I live and we got lots of rain this past week. I’m looking forward to trying it. Y’all keep posting your progress on here!!


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#16 Offline DarkCerebral - Posted May 29 2022 - 9:50 PM

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This was maybe my best wekend of the entire year.  7 Pheidole sp. (I think Bicarinata), 7 Camponotus Castaneus, and 1 unknown. Also yesterday I stocked up on 12 Solenopsis Richteri for nest testing.

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#17 Offline ANTdrew - Posted May 30 2022 - 2:23 AM

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Are there any Pheidole flying this time of year already. I found one tonight during a light rain shower. Looks bicarinata but I thought they were later summer.

Also, I have invested in some black lights. This information will be useful to stock up on more P opportunities.

I told you! Seems to me the further south you are, the better blacklighting works.
"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
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#18 Offline FloridaAnts - Posted May 30 2022 - 6:16 AM

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Are there any Pheidole flying this time of year already. I found one tonight during a light rain shower. Looks bicarinata but I thought they were later summer.
Also, I have invested in some black lights. This information will be useful to stock up on more P opportunities.

I told you! Seems to me the further south you are, the better blacklighting works.
Well….

My areas time has not yet come

#19 Offline Jonny8040 - Posted May 30 2022 - 7:01 AM

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This was maybe my best wekend of the entire year. 7 Pheidole sp. (I think Bicarinata), 7 Camponotus Castaneus, and 1 unknown. Also yesterday I stocked up on 12 Solenopsis Richteri for nest testing.


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#20 Offline Jonny8040 - Posted May 30 2022 - 7:31 PM

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So tonight was my first night black lighting for queens. Literally within seconds. I mean seconds I had tons of males swarming the light. Then I found two queens! I know they are camponotus and I believe they are Castaneus. I’m excited to see what they do!IMG_6811.jpg
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