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Any idea what kind of queen ant is smaller than a pen head?


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#1 Offline Crazycow - Posted September 10 2021 - 9:39 AM

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So I was searching for queens the other night and I saw the tiniest little queen so wings and I had a little micro scope thing and took a look and it was sure enough some sort of queen. I went to grab a test tube to try and collect it but when I got back it was gone. The thing that it confusing me is it was at least 1 millimeters or maybe less and I’ve never heard of any queen that small in Washington.
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#2 Offline ANTdrew - Posted September 10 2021 - 11:41 AM

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Could have been a solitary wasp if it was really that small.
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#3 Offline UtahAnts - Posted September 10 2021 - 12:55 PM

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You sure it wasn't a drone?


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#4 Offline Crazycow - Posted September 10 2021 - 1:14 PM

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You sure it wasn't a drone?

Yeah I’m sure.

#5 Offline Crazycow - Posted September 10 2021 - 1:15 PM

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Could have been a solitary wasp if it was really that small.

It’s possible but it looked very much like a queen ant. It had the smaller eyes and the straight antenna ants have so I’m not sure.

#6 Offline Crazycow - Posted September 10 2021 - 1:17 PM

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To put it in perspective it was about the size of the spring-tales that had also gathered near the light I was using

#7 Offline JamesJohnson - Posted September 10 2021 - 1:52 PM

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Could have been a solitary wasp if it was really that small.

It’s possible but it looked very much like a queen ant. It had the smaller eyes and the straight antenna ants have so I’m not sure.
Ants don’t have straight antennae. Solitary wasps on the other hand, do. Easiest way for me at least to tell right off the bat whether or not something’s an ant.

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#8 Offline ANTdrew - Posted September 10 2021 - 2:00 PM

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Wasps have straight or slightly curved antennae. No queens in North America are the size of a springtail.
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#9 Offline Crazycow - Posted September 10 2021 - 2:04 PM

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Alright well that’s one tiny little wasp

#10 Offline NickAnter - Posted September 10 2021 - 2:05 PM

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Well... Some Strumigenys can come pretty close there actually, but you probably didn't find Strumigenys.


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#11 Offline Crazycow - Posted September 10 2021 - 2:15 PM

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Well... Some Strumigenys can come pretty close there actually, but you probably didn't find Strumigenys.

Alright

#12 Offline ANTdrew - Posted September 10 2021 - 3:18 PM

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Alright well that’s one tiny little wasp

There are about 5 bazillion species of wasps, and many are absolutely tiny.
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"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
Keep ordinary ants in extraordinary ways.

#13 Offline PetsNotPests - Posted September 10 2021 - 3:22 PM

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Alright well that’s one tiny little wasp

There are about 5 bazillion species of wasps, and many are absolutely tiny.

 

True that.  


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#14 Offline TestSubjectOne - Posted September 11 2021 - 12:01 PM

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The world's smallest insect is a wasp.


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