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[CheetoLord02]

I've never really paid attention to this, but after catching C. sansabeanus myself this year, I've been confused. Their antwiki describes them as being 10-14mm (queens), my queens are all around 12-14mm, I know a guy in Oklahoma with 12-14mm queens, but everyone in California says their sansabeanus are like, 18mm? What's up with that?

This isn't even some "exposed" thread, I'm genuinely curious if anyone knows what's up with this. Mis-Identifications? Local variation? A different species entirely? I have to know what people think.

[PetsNotPests]

I don't get this ether. My Sansabeanus queens are all 18-19mm. 

[cocdeshijie]

Camponotus sansavicinus

[NicholasP]

Maybe they're all Sansabeanus but that due to different climates the weather and climate differences affect the queen sizes? I feel like entomologists would've maybe caught on to this by now.

[NicholasP]

Also. Any Californians out there please don't take offense to this. But is it possible that Californians are just exaggerating the size or just accidently measuring them as a bit bigger? I don't know myself but it's a possibility. Just saying.

[JamesJohnson]

It doesn't make too much sense why Californians would be consistently exaggerating the size but no one else does it all.

[NicholasP]

Well I don't know but it's also a possibility that CA climate is different from AZ and Oklahoma climate which is causing them to be bigger.

[CheetoLord02]

I don't think it's exaggeration, I've seen pictures next to rulers and everything. If anyone has pictures of their sansabeanus with a measurement that they'd like to share, that would be great. Maybe we could see some morphological differences in queens from different areas or something.

[NickAnter]

Pretty sure Tanaemyrmex is a mess no one wants to have to clean.

[ReignofRage]

People don't ID their queens well, most of the time they don't ID the queen and just assume it's the species they want it to be. 

[Kaelwizard]

So... What if they aren't C. sansabeanus?