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#1 Offline RequiredField - Posted May 27 2021 - 11:20 AM

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1. Location of collection: Suburb outside of Philadelphia, PA
2. Date of collection: 5/27/21
3. Habitat of collection: Suburban backyard.
4. Length: 3mm
5. Coloration, hue, pattern and texture: Blackish brown with golden bands around gaster.
6. Distinguishing characteristics: N/A
7. Anything else distinctive: N/A
8. Nest description: Unknown
9. Nuptial flight time and date: Unknown

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#2 Offline ANTdrew - Posted May 27 2021 - 12:48 PM

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My guess would be Tapinoma sessile.
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#3 Offline PetsNotPests - Posted May 27 2021 - 12:51 PM

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I agree with T. sesile. I've caught several of these queens this season and they look very similar. 


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-Camponotus sansabeanus

-Camponotus US-CA02

-Camponotus vicinus

-Formica podzolica

-Monomorium spp.

-Pogonomyrmex californicus

-Solenopsis spp. 

 


#4 Offline VoidElecent - Posted May 27 2021 - 12:55 PM

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I think this looks more like Nylanderia sp.
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#5 Offline ZTYguy - Posted May 27 2021 - 12:57 PM

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kinda looks like N. parvula. Don't take my word though.


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#6 Offline PetsNotPests - Posted May 27 2021 - 1:38 PM

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kinda looks like N. parvula. Don't take my word though.

N. Parvula queens seem to have larger gasters, but I could be wrong. 


Ants are Pets, not Pests. 

 

-Camponotus sansabeanus

-Camponotus US-CA02

-Camponotus vicinus

-Formica podzolica

-Monomorium spp.

-Pogonomyrmex californicus

-Solenopsis spp. 

 


#7 Offline VoidElecent - Posted May 27 2021 - 1:44 PM

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We don't have enough information to determine the species. Nylanderia sp. is as close as were going to get



#8 Offline Antcatcherpro3 - Posted May 27 2021 - 2:05 PM

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I am also catching queens that look like this species. 



#9 Offline ANTS_KL - Posted May 27 2021 - 7:22 PM

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Yes they look like nylanderia. Tapinoma look... flatter?

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Currently kept ant species, favorites have a star in front of their names (NOT in alphabetical order, also may be outdated sometimes): Camponotus irritans inferior, Ooceraea biroi, Pheidole parva, Nylanderia sp., Paraparatrechina tapinomoides, Platythyrea sp., Anochetus sp., Colobopsis sp. (cylindrica group), Crematogaster ferrarii, Polyrhachis (Myrma) cf. pruinosa, Polyrhachis (Cyrtomyrma) laevissima, Tapinoma sp. (formerly Zatapinoma)

Death count: Probably over a hundred individual queens and colonies by now. I cannot recall whatsoever.

#10 Offline Antcatcherpro3 - Posted May 28 2021 - 3:35 AM

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One of the queens I caught is fertile, I saw the male, so I might be able to ID it after they get workers. That might not be soon though. 



#11 Offline ANTS_KL - Posted May 28 2021 - 4:11 AM

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If they are nylanderia you can get workers at a minimum of around maybe... 1 and a half months? So it's gonna take a while

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Currently kept ant species, favorites have a star in front of their names (NOT in alphabetical order, also may be outdated sometimes): Camponotus irritans inferior, Ooceraea biroi, Pheidole parva, Nylanderia sp., Paraparatrechina tapinomoides, Platythyrea sp., Anochetus sp., Colobopsis sp. (cylindrica group), Crematogaster ferrarii, Polyrhachis (Myrma) cf. pruinosa, Polyrhachis (Cyrtomyrma) laevissima, Tapinoma sp. (formerly Zatapinoma)

Death count: Probably over a hundred individual queens and colonies by now. I cannot recall whatsoever.

#12 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted May 28 2021 - 4:47 AM

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If they are nylanderia you can get workers at a minimum of around maybe... 1 and a half months? So it's gonna take a while

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Tell that to ANTdrew. Pretty sure his grew faster than that.



#13 Offline ANTS_KL - Posted May 28 2021 - 4:50 AM

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Well that's the nylanderia in my country.. they take foreveeeeer. But if yours grow faster then sure.

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Currently kept ant species, favorites have a star in front of their names (NOT in alphabetical order, also may be outdated sometimes): Camponotus irritans inferior, Ooceraea biroi, Pheidole parva, Nylanderia sp., Paraparatrechina tapinomoides, Platythyrea sp., Anochetus sp., Colobopsis sp. (cylindrica group), Crematogaster ferrarii, Polyrhachis (Myrma) cf. pruinosa, Polyrhachis (Cyrtomyrma) laevissima, Tapinoma sp. (formerly Zatapinoma)

Death count: Probably over a hundred individual queens and colonies by now. I cannot recall whatsoever.

#14 Offline yibsi - Posted May 28 2021 - 12:19 PM

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kinda looks like N. parvula. Don't take my word though.

 

 

 

kinda looks like N. parvula. Don't take my word though.

N. Parvula queens seem to have larger gasters, but I could be wrong. 

 

I'm currently keeping N. parvula, this queen isn't N. parvula, all my parvula queen's antennae are further down on the head, and the eyes on my queens are slightly smaller. As well as the fact that my N. Parvula queen's are also much darker and have larger gastors, and have a slight reddish hint, not a yellowish brown like this queen. This queen is definitely a Nylanderia sp. but not N. parvula.


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    Nylanderia parvula - 4 queen polygynous colony with larvae + devoloping workers

    Camponotus pennsylvanicus  - 1 queen with 2 cocoons, and a few larvae and eggs

    Tetramorium immigrans - 3 colonies, first nanetics!

    Formica pallidifulva - 1 queen, 8-10 eggs

    Tetramorium atratulum - 1 queen with roughly 17 host workers

    :D Pheidole pilifera - 1 queen! recently caught! :D

    Solenopsis Molesta - 2 queens so far, polygenous set-up

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#15 Offline ANTdrew - Posted May 28 2021 - 12:21 PM

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Queen to nanitics rate is actually not that fast. Five to six weeks, I’d say. Then they really take off!
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#16 Offline RequiredField - Posted May 28 2021 - 4:00 PM

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kinda looks like N. parvula. Don't take my word though.

 

 

 

kinda looks like N. parvula. Don't take my word though.

N. Parvula queens seem to have larger gasters, but I could be wrong. 

 

I'm currently keeping N. parvula, this queen isn't N. parvula, all my parvula queen's antennae are further down on the head, and the eyes on my queens are slightly smaller. As well as the fact that my N. Parvula queen's are also much darker and have larger gastors, and have a slight reddish hint, not a yellowish brown like this queen. This queen is definitely a Nylanderia sp. but not N. parvula.

 

Would extra pictures at a higher rez help in any way? The pictures above were taken hastily when the queen was still in the initial shock phase of running around the tube, she's settled now obviously and I'm fairly sure a better camera could capture more detail. As a side note, it's been a madhouse of queens in my backyard recently so I have a tube with multiple queens (and one control tube with just a single queen) already laying and getting along nicely which is definitely consistent with what I've found on Nylandrias.  



#17 Offline RequiredField - Posted May 28 2021 - 4:03 PM

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One of the queens I caught is fertile, I saw the male, so I might be able to ID it after they get workers. That might not be soon though. 

Weird, I also got to catch a glimpse of the male. Not enough to actually remember anything about him but saw him nonetheless. Hopefully these little guys do alright with us. 



#18 Offline yibsi - Posted May 29 2021 - 6:20 AM

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kinda looks like N. parvula. Don't take my word though.

 
 

kinda looks like N. parvula. Don't take my word though.

N. Parvula queens seem to have larger gasters, but I could be wrong.
I'm currently keeping N. parvula, this queen isn't N. parvula, all my parvula queen's antennae are further down on the head, and the eyes on my queens are slightly smaller. As well as the fact that my N. Parvula queen's are also much darker and have larger gastors, and have a slight reddish hint, not a yellowish brown like this queen. This queen is definitely a Nylanderia sp. but not N. parvula.
Would extra pictures at a higher rez help in any way? The pictures above were taken hastily when the queen was still in the initial shock phase of running around the tube, she's settled now obviously and I'm fairly sure a better camera could capture more detail. As a side note, it's been a madhouse of queens in my backyard recently so I have a tube with multiple queens (and one control tube with just a single queen) already laying and getting along nicely which is definitely consistent with what I've found on Nylandrias.

She is definitely a species of Nylanderia, however the specific species is hard to determine, especially with Nylanderia, better photos will help, but to know for sure you need a high powered microscope. I think it’s best to just refer to them as Nylanderia Sp. for now.

    Nylanderia parvula - 4 queen polygynous colony with larvae + devoloping workers

    Camponotus pennsylvanicus  - 1 queen with 2 cocoons, and a few larvae and eggs

    Tetramorium immigrans - 3 colonies, first nanetics!

    Formica pallidifulva - 1 queen, 8-10 eggs

    Tetramorium atratulum - 1 queen with roughly 17 host workers

    :D Pheidole pilifera - 1 queen! recently caught! :D

    Solenopsis Molesta - 2 queens so far, polygenous set-up

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