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[KadinB]

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[strawnkayden1]

Natives can’t be released as well.

Wtf

Natives can’t be released as well.

Wtf

[KadinB]

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[KadinB]

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[Kaelwizard]

 

 

A couple of things folks are forgetting here.
 
1. Just because it appears that the species occurs in more than one state. It is not at all impossible for there to be more than one look alike species involved and considering the level of taxonomic competence of the average ant hobbyist the odds of the mimic species being properly identified is virtually nil.
 
2. It is entirely possible that the members of a population in one location are hosts to parasites or a pathogen to which they may be resistant but the population in adjoining state are not. Personally I have no problem with the situation as it is, although admittedly some overall clarification would be nice.

Taxonomic issues should be considered, I agree. However they are not as common or widespread as many common US ants are, especially in states that are more well studied. There are certainly more sophisticated ways to deal with them rather than a blanket ban.
I have heard the argument about transmitting parasites, pathogens, or other various diseases, and while this is possibly a valid argument, the current ant laws actually cover this in a completely different way. It's not regulated by an interstate transit ban, but rather the fact that all plant pests, including ants, are illegal to release from captivity, ever. Yes, this is an actual law. I bet most people have never heard of it, because for some reason the antkeeping community only cares about the interstate transit ban and no other parts of the law.
I can't find the section where this is said on hand, but I'm sure I could with some digging and asking around.

Found it.

“ PPQ 526 Permit
The PPQ 526 permit for importation, interstate movement, possession, and/or release into the environment of:

Insects and Mites (other than Bees, Butterflies and Moths, and Biocontrol Organisms)”

I think this is the reason the laws a mess. There’s just such a enormous blanket ban on all species of not just all ants but all insects in general.

 

One of the perks of the permit is being allowed to release ants, I guess. Here is the thread: https://www.formicul...nd-of-the-free/

 

 

Natives can’t be released as well.

Wtf

 

 

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[NancyZamora4991]

Can you put a date on it so I know when to go on

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