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Best Answer NickAnter , March 15 2021 - 7:15 AM

This is Solenopsis, as seen by the two segmented antennal club in the first picture. One of the many species in CA that arent really studied(or described), or commonly kept. Hopefully the queen is fertile, and you can see what the workers look like.

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#1 Offline MelodicRedHawk - Posted March 14 2021 - 10:52 PM

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Location: San Leandro (SF Bay Area), CA; Crawling on the windshield of my car sometime in the afternoon.

Date of Collection: Mid-January, 2021

Habitat: Suburban area, some trees, some small fields, mostly lawns and sidewalks

Length: Approx. 4-5mm

 

Shiny, dark reddish-brown with faint spot on spine of wings, no visible hairs, oval-shaped gaster.

Two petiole nodes.

Curled into a "C" shape during collection and whenever I check her test tube.

Unable to locate nest.

Nuptial flight time and date unknown.

 

Have had this queen for nearly two months, so far it has dropped one wing, no brood. Would really appreciate some assistance identifying, and some input as to whether this is a viable queen or not.

 

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#2 Offline YsTheAnt - Posted March 14 2021 - 11:09 PM

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Could you get a top down shot of the queen? Looks like Solenopsis but its hard to rule out Crematogaster without such a photo. Never seen either fly in January though...

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#3 Offline MelodicRedHawk - Posted March 14 2021 - 11:57 PM

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Could you get a top down shot of the queen? Looks like Solenopsis but its hard to rule out Crematogaster without such a photo. Never seen either fly in January though...

 

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#4 Offline MelodicRedHawk - Posted March 14 2021 - 11:59 PM

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Could you get a top down shot of the queen? Looks like Solenopsis but its hard to rule out Crematogaster without such a photo. Never seen either fly in January though...

 

I thought the timing was odd for any ant species in my area, but because this is the first wild queen that I've encountered, I didn't question it too much at the time.



#5 Offline gcsnelling - Posted March 15 2021 - 2:14 AM

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Count the segments on the antennal club, gives it away immediately. They fly when they feel like it.



#6 Offline Zeiss - Posted March 15 2021 - 2:52 AM

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Thank you for reading around the forum and learning how to make an ID request properly, it's much appreciated!  

 

If you're using a phone camera, they usually have a minimum focal range of 3-4 inches, so hold your phone about that far away from the target.  Try not to zoom in too much, as that will usually blur the image further.  Be sure to get a good amount of light on the subject too for your camera to have an easier time focusing.

 

As for the ant, I believe it's in the genus Solenopsis.  For a species ID, I would need to see clearer photos.


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#7 Offline MelodicRedHawk - Posted March 15 2021 - 5:06 AM

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Thank you for reading around the forum and learning how to make an ID request properly, it's much appreciated!  

 

If you're using a phone camera, they usually have a minimum focal range of 3-4 inches, so hold your phone about that far away from the target.  Try not to zoom in too much, as that will usually blur the image further.  Be sure to get a good amount of light on the subject too for your camera to have an easier time focusing.

 

As for the ant, I believe it's in the genus Solenopsis.  For a species ID, I would need to see clearer photos.

 

I'll attempt to get some clearer ones. I am indeed working with a cell phone camera, and this one in particular likes to be inconsistent with its focusing.



#8 Offline MelodicRedHawk - Posted March 15 2021 - 5:58 AM

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Unfortunately, my camera would not comply with getting any clearer pictures. That being said, is it normal for a solenopsis queen to go this long without laying any eggs? As I stated at the beginning of the thread, I have had this ant for about two months.



#9 Offline NickAnter - Posted March 15 2021 - 7:15 AM   Best Answer

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This is Solenopsis, as seen by the two segmented antennal club in the first picture. One of the many species in CA that arent really studied(or described), or commonly kept. Hopefully the queen is fertile, and you can see what the workers look like.


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


#10 Offline YsTheAnt - Posted March 15 2021 - 7:25 AM

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I agree with Solenopsis.


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#11 Offline MelodicRedHawk - Posted March 15 2021 - 8:28 AM

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This is Solenopsis, as seen by the two segmented antennal club in the first picture. One of the many species in CA that arent really studied(or described), or commonly kept. Hopefully the queen is fertile, and you can see what the workers look like.

 

What would you say the chances are of her being fertile, after nearly two months with no brood?



#12 Offline antsandmore - Posted March 15 2021 - 8:33 AM

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This is Solenopsis, as seen by the two segmented antennal club in the first picture. One of the many species in CA that arent really studied(or described), or commonly kept. Hopefully the queen is fertile, and you can see what the workers look like.

 

What would you say the chances are of her being fertile, after nearly two months with no brood?

 

there's always a half and half chance, either she lays or she doesn't. Solenopsis going this long without eggs is kind of weird, although you probably caught her in the winter so she could have been in hibernation/diapause. I'd keep her just in case. keep us updated!


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Ants I am keeping:

 none for now, planning on being more active this year


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This is Solenopsis, as seen by the two segmented antennal club in the first picture. One of the many species in CA that arent really studied(or described), or commonly kept. Hopefully the queen is fertile, and you can see what the workers look like.

 

What would you say the chances are of her being fertile, after nearly two months with no brood?

 

Very low. Unless she is sort of hibernating and waiting for warmer weather, which would be unusual for this genus.


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


#14 Offline Manitobant - Posted March 15 2021 - 10:24 AM

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The fact that she has wings and hasn’t laid for this long makes me think she is infertile.

#15 Offline gcsnelling - Posted March 15 2021 - 2:47 PM

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This is unfortunately very common with Solenopsis in the molesta group.


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#16 Offline BugFinder - Posted March 15 2021 - 3:15 PM

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That's a beautiful ant.  Congratulations.  I hope she lays for you.


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#17 Offline MelodicRedHawk - Posted March 20 2021 - 3:32 PM

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If on the off chance she does lay, I will most likely be putting the colony up for sale. As cool as Solenopsis are, I am not entirely interested in keeping stinging species in my home, especially since I also have a cat that loves mischief.



#18 Offline M_Ants - Posted March 20 2021 - 3:36 PM

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Dibs


Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

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#19 Offline JenC - Posted March 20 2021 - 4:20 PM

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How much would you be selling for?


Current Colonies:
1x Camponotus Vicinus (3 Workers)

Single Queens:
3x Camponotus Clarithorax
4x Camponotus Maritimus
5x Camponotus Ca02
7x Camponotus Sansabeanus
1x Myrmecocustus Testaceus
3x Prenolepis Imparis




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