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wondering about Camponotus flights in California


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#1 Offline ZTYguy - Posted March 11 2021 - 10:51 AM

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I know its been rather cold and its throughing me off my whole system but does anyone have an idea where camponotus will be flying and aprox dates.  Hoping to catch some us-ca02 this year so thanks for any responses. I get if this is too outlandish of a request.


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finding aprov dates arent easy, its all luck. 


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#3 Offline ZTYguy - Posted March 11 2021 - 2:08 PM

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I get that. I am hoping to go out to trabuco or the Santa ana mountains later this month once it warms up to get some queens hopefully. I wish there were camponotus where i live.


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#4 Offline cocdeshijie - Posted March 11 2021 - 2:43 PM

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go out next warm night


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#5 Offline ZTYguy - Posted March 11 2021 - 3:24 PM

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ok. what would you consider warm. 


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A. versicolor, C. us-ca02, C. yogi, C. Vicinus, C. laevigatus, C. clarithorax, C. maritimus, C. ocreatus, M. mexicanus, M. placodops 01, V. andrei, V. pergandei, N. cockerelli, P. barbata, P. montanus

Hoping to Catch This season:

M. romanei, M. placodops 02, P. imberbiculus, Polyergus sp., F. moki, A. megomatta, Cyphomyrmex sp.,Temnothorax sp.


#6 Offline BugFinder - Posted March 11 2021 - 8:47 PM

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go out next warm night

do you recommend using a black light and a sheet to catch camponotous?


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#7 Offline ZTYguy - Posted March 12 2021 - 7:21 AM

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I’ve never used the black light method on them cause I’ve never had them at my house or in a few mile radius from my house.


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A. versicolor, C. us-ca02, C. yogi, C. Vicinus, C. laevigatus, C. clarithorax, C. maritimus, C. ocreatus, M. mexicanus, M. placodops 01, V. andrei, V. pergandei, N. cockerelli, P. barbata, P. montanus

Hoping to Catch This season:

M. romanei, M. placodops 02, P. imberbiculus, Polyergus sp., F. moki, A. megomatta, Cyphomyrmex sp.,Temnothorax sp.


#8 Offline Guest_StrickyAnts_* - Posted March 12 2021 - 8:46 AM

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I’ve never used the black light method on them cause I’ve never had them at my house or in a few mile radius from my house.

damn, you checked every part of land? warm is considered 75f and they fly at night.


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#9 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted March 12 2021 - 8:50 AM

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go out next warm night

do you recommend using a black light and a sheet to catch camponotous?

 

Not sure about in Cali, but here they fly when it is too light out for a black light to be of any use.


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#10 Offline ZTYguy - Posted March 12 2021 - 9:01 AM

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I’ve never used the black light method on them cause I’ve never had them at my house or in a few mile radius from my house.

damn, you checked every part of land? warm is considered 75f and they fly at night.

 

Well. i do scope out the area around my little neighborhood but never have i found a single Camponotus colony. Also i didn't know what people classified as warm cause i'm used to my native ants later in the season flying whenever.


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Hoping to Catch This season:

M. romanei, M. placodops 02, P. imberbiculus, Polyergus sp., F. moki, A. megomatta, Cyphomyrmex sp.,Temnothorax sp.


#11 Offline Guest_StrickyAnts_* - Posted March 12 2021 - 9:03 AM

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I’ve never used the black light method on them cause I’ve never had them at my house or in a few mile radius from my house.

damn, you checked every part of land? warm is considered 75f and they fly at night.

 

Well. i do scope out the area around my little neighborhood but never have i found a single Camponotus colony. Also i didn't know what people classified as warm cause i'm used to my native ants later in the season flying whenever.

 

ah, if you havent blacklighted in summer, you should try it! One of my friends caught a lot of queens, he didn't know was around him.


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#12 Offline ZTYguy - Posted March 12 2021 - 9:06 AM

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I’ve never used the black light method on them cause I’ve never had them at my house or in a few mile radius from my house.

damn, you checked every part of land? warm is considered 75f and they fly at night.

 

Well. i do scope out the area around my little neighborhood but never have i found a single Camponotus colony. Also i didn't know what people classified as warm cause i'm used to my native ants later in the season flying whenever.

 

ah, if you havent blacklighted in summer, you should try it! One of my friends caught a lot of queens, he didn't know was around him.

 

I geuss ill have to try it out.


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Hoping to Catch This season:

M. romanei, M. placodops 02, P. imberbiculus, Polyergus sp., F. moki, A. megomatta, Cyphomyrmex sp.,Temnothorax sp.


#13 Offline ZTYguy - Posted March 18 2021 - 9:41 AM

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So i've been looking at places to go and i am convinced that by end of the month i'll be able to go up to Trabuco Canyon.


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Hoping to Catch This season:

M. romanei, M. placodops 02, P. imberbiculus, Polyergus sp., F. moki, A. megomatta, Cyphomyrmex sp.,Temnothorax sp.


#14 Offline BrandonM - Posted March 18 2021 - 11:46 AM

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It’s starting to look like Spring for some in SoCal. Caught this couple on my walk about 30 min ago. Sunny and 73 degrees F.1deea4865708f4ff72f70c2436f072ca.jpg


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#15 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted March 18 2021 - 11:50 AM

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Well that's nice.  :o



#16 Offline NickAnter - Posted March 18 2021 - 11:54 AM

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Camponotus in Coastal Southern California fly at night. At higher elevation areas they will fly in the earlier evening.

 

However, no matter when they fly, it is best to look at night, as that is when they all come out to search for founding chambers, or continue digging them.


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


#17 Offline BugFinder - Posted March 19 2021 - 7:22 AM

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Camponotus in Coastal Southern California fly at night. At higher elevation areas they will fly in the earlier evening.

 

However, no matter when they fly, it is best to look at night, as that is when they all come out to search for founding chambers, or continue digging them.

 

So when you say look for them at night, do you mean out hunting for them, or using a light trap?


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#18 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted March 19 2021 - 8:26 AM

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Camponotus in Coastal Southern California fly at night. At higher elevation areas they will fly in the earlier evening.

 

However, no matter when they fly, it is best to look at night, as that is when they all come out to search for founding chambers, or continue digging them.

 

So when you say look for them at night, do you mean out hunting for them, or using a light trap?

 

I think you are overthinking this a little. Just look for them however you can, as both ways are probably fine.



#19 Offline BugFinder - Posted March 19 2021 - 9:02 AM

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Camponotus in Coastal Southern California fly at night. At higher elevation areas they will fly in the earlier evening.

 

However, no matter when they fly, it is best to look at night, as that is when they all come out to search for founding chambers, or continue digging them.

 

So when you say look for them at night, do you mean out hunting for them, or using a light trap?

 

I think you are overthinking this a little. Just look for them however you can, as both ways are probably fine.

 

 

lol.  I wasn't over thinking it, I was asking you to clarify what you meant lol.  It's helpful to understand exactly what a person is trying to say, instead of trying to guess.


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Tetramorium (sp)

Pogonomyrmex Californicus

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#20 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted March 19 2021 - 9:12 AM

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Camponotus in Coastal Southern California fly at night. At higher elevation areas they will fly in the earlier evening.

 

However, no matter when they fly, it is best to look at night, as that is when they all come out to search for founding chambers, or continue digging them.

 

So when you say look for them at night, do you mean out hunting for them, or using a light trap?

 

I think you are overthinking this a little. Just look for them however you can, as both ways are probably fine.

 

 

lol.  I wasn't over thinking it, I was asking you to clarify what you meant lol.  It's helpful to understand exactly what a person is trying to say, instead of trying to guess.

 

I wasn't the one who said to look at night, it was NickAnter. I will say that at night a black light would probably be the easiest way to find them, as looking for queens in the dark would be pretty challenging. My point was to do whatever you can.


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