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Looking for feeder springtails for me Pogonomyrmex.

Started By KitsAntVa , Jan 19 2021 8:16 AM

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#1 Offline KitsAntVa - Posted January 19 2021 - 8:16 AM

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As it says I would like springtails, preferably large sluggish ones that can be caught easily to make a automatic feeder system for my Pogonomyrmex. Quite simple actually I keep the springtails and I feed them my Pogonomyrmex trash and they turn into my Pogonomyrmex dinner again.
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#2 Offline Devi - Posted January 19 2021 - 8:35 AM

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You want your Pogonomyrmex to eat them? I don't know if they would like that, but ask ANTdrew if you want some. I got a culture and they are flourishing!

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#3 Offline ANTdrew - Posted January 19 2021 - 8:44 AM

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I could sell you some big springtails. I've been finding lots of big Tomocerus springtails under leaves in forested areas. I bet there are a bunch where you live, too. Would Pogonomyrmex be quick enough to catch them, though?


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#4 Offline KitsAntVa - Posted January 19 2021 - 8:46 AM

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They like eating them I’ve tried it. They are actually quick enough if you give them time. Do the ones you have jump a lot? I do need ones that don’t really move as fast as others.
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#5 Offline ANTdrew - Posted January 19 2021 - 8:51 AM

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These Tomocerus jump like crazy. You might want to try finding Isotomidae. They are big, but kind of slow. I haven't had much luck finding them this year, though.


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#6 Offline NickAnter - Posted January 19 2021 - 9:13 AM

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*My Pogonomyrmex

 

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

 

I am very surprised though, that Pogonomyrmex would spend time eating springtails. Not sure that I have ever heard of that before.


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#7 Offline KitsAntVa - Posted January 19 2021 - 9:15 AM

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*My Pogonomyrmex

 

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

 

I did it on purpose 


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#8 Offline NickAnter - Posted January 19 2021 - 10:30 AM

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*My Pogonomyrmex

 

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

 

I did it on purpose 

 

I know


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#9 Offline AleeGuy - Posted January 19 2021 - 12:52 PM

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*My Pogonomyrmex

 

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

 

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I know

 

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#10 Offline NickAnter - Posted January 19 2021 - 1:15 PM

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*My Pogonomyrmex

 

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

 

I did it on purpose 

 

I know

 

America runs on Dunkin

 

Umm..... OK...


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

#11 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted January 19 2021 - 1:25 PM

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*My Pogonomyrmex

 

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

 

I did it on purpose 

 

I know

 

America runs on Dunkin

 

We indeed do, I can confirm.


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#12 Offline Swirlysnowflake - Posted January 19 2021 - 1:32 PM

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I could sell you some big springtails. I've been finding lots of big Tomocerus springtails under leaves in forested areas. I bet there are a bunch where you live, too. Would Pogonomyrmex be quick enough to catch them, though?

I might be interested in the Tomocerus, if you are willing to ship to CA. What would prices be?


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#13 Offline ANTdrew - Posted January 19 2021 - 1:38 PM

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I can definitely look into it for you. Send me a PM if you want to talk details.
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#14 Offline ponerinecat - Posted January 19 2021 - 1:58 PM

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I could sell you some big springtails. I've been finding lots of big Tomocerus springtails under leaves in forested areas. I bet there are a bunch where you live, too. Would Pogonomyrmex be quick enough to catch them, though?

I might be interested in the Tomocerus, if you are willing to ship to CA. What would prices be?

 

Tomocerus are pretty common here in colder, wet environments, so if you have a place like that near you collecting would be fairly easy.

 

They like eating them I’ve tried it. They are actually quick enough if you give them time. Do the ones you have jump a lot? I do need ones that don’t really move as fast as others.

Tomocerus can jump huge distances, but more importantly, they need cold, damp environments, which is the opposite of how Pogonomyrmex live. Isotomidae are pretty slow moving but they jump just as much as Tomocerus, and they easily desiccate(if you put a few in a bare plastic container they die within the hour). Just get a different feeder would be my advice. Most of the arid springtails are super quick and small, I don't know of any large springtails that like dry and hot conditions.


#15 Offline KitsAntVa - Posted January 19 2021 - 2:18 PM

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Well you see. I have a setup which would be damp and decaying trash basically all around which is a outworld that has a opening leading up into it, I would apply the barrier in the opening making it impossible for the Pogonomyrmex to get up anyway which the outworld is a ausants one. The springtails would reproduce and eat the trash of the Pogonomyrmex that I placed in their environment. After that the springtails would occasionally fall into the opening not being able to get back up so then the Pogonomyrmex would eat them eventually.
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