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Question.... how important is a heating element?


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#1 Offline Lillyrose - Posted January 14 2021 - 9:22 AM

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I kinda wasn't planning on doing a heating element as they'll be inside with me .. and my house is about 74 degrees give or take ...

Do they need a heating cord? Or is it warm enough?

#2 Offline Swirlysnowflake - Posted January 14 2021 - 9:30 AM

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What species?


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#3 Offline ANTdrew - Posted January 14 2021 - 9:43 AM

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74 is not really warm enough for most species in our area.
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#4 Offline WSantkeeper - Posted January 14 2021 - 9:48 AM

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It depends on the species. I think some species of ants might be okay with that heat. 


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#5 Offline Lillyrose - Posted January 14 2021 - 9:56 AM

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One is the pavement ant, the other are acorn ants.

Guess I'll grab a cable, I just don't know how to use it lol

#6 Offline ANTdrew - Posted January 14 2021 - 10:32 AM

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Heat cables are pretty easy to use. Just tape a portion of the cable on a side of the formicarium furthest away from the water. You just want to be careful not to cook the ants with too much heat and to prevent condensation.


"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
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#7 Offline Devi - Posted January 14 2021 - 10:46 AM

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Heat cables are pretty easy to use. Just tape a portion of the cable on a side of the formicarium furthest away from the water. You just want to be careful not to cook the ants with too much heat and to prevent condensation.

Heating is tricky... Depending on what species you have, the heating requirements can vary.  Just listen to what ANTdrew says.  Lol.  I agree with everything he says in that post, but be especially careful not to put it too close to the water tower or hydration source or the whole nest will fog up with condensation and look bad.  



#8 Offline Mdrogun - Posted January 14 2021 - 10:49 AM

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I kinda wasn't planning on doing a heating element as they'll be inside with me .. and my house is about 74 degrees give or take ...

Do they need a heating cord? Or is it warm enough?

A heating element of any kind literally changes the antkeeping experience. Over multiple generations, the shortened development time makes a hugeeeee difference. Your ants will naturally just grow a lot faster, eat more food, and be generally more entertaining.

That being said, 74F is probably fine for both of the species that you mentioned you had; Tetramorium immigrans and Temnothorax sp.

If you can spare the $10-30 that it takes to get a heating cable, it's certainly worth it in my opinion. If you can't, no big deal. Keep in mind that no matter what species you are raising you are going to want to create a heat gradient. Like other users have mentioned this often is as simple as taping it to just one side of the nest that you're using. That way the ants are free to choose the most optimal temperature for themselves and their brood.
 


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Trachymyrmex septentrionalis

Pheidole pilifera

Forelius sp. (Monogynous, bicolored) "Midwestern Forelius"
Crematogaster cerasi

Pheidole bicarinata

Aphaenogaster rudis

Camponotus chromaiodes

Formica sp. (microgena species)

Nylanderia cf. arenivega


#9 Offline Chickalo - Posted January 14 2021 - 10:49 AM

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One is the pavement ant, the other are acorn ants.

Guess I'll grab a cable, I just don't know how to use it lol

i don't think its needed for either but it does boost brood development.  once you plug it in place it on/next tube the side furthest from the water.  if they seem like it you can place it a little close, and vice versa,


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#10 Offline ANTdrew - Posted January 14 2021 - 12:04 PM

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In my experience, Tetramorium hardly even eat at 74 degrees.
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"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
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#11 Offline aznphenom - Posted January 14 2021 - 1:55 PM

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In my experience, Tetramorium hardly even eat at 74 degrees.

Hmm, I wonder if that is what killed my tetra.


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#12 Offline Lillyrose - Posted January 14 2021 - 4:17 PM

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The acorn ants live in an acorn tho, how can I do that?

#13 Offline ANTdrew - Posted January 14 2021 - 5:01 PM

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Put the acorn in a foraging container with a lid. Put a loop of heat cable under one side of the container.
"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
Keep ordinary ants in extraordinary ways.

#14 Offline Scherme - Posted January 15 2021 - 3:53 AM

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the heating cable doesn't heat like I originally thought it would. It gets rather warm and can definitely raise your temps, but it shouldn't cook anything in my limited experience. My nests are built with a slot running down an entire side big enough for the cable. I stuff my cable in there and my tetras put their mountains of brood right next to the heated wall.

It guess it depends on nest size too tho, if you have a super small nest just lay the heating cable close to it. The point is to let them decide how much heat they want as Mdrogun said. 
 

my tetras loved my garage when it was 85 degrees or over. 


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