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Can silverfish and ants live together?

Started By millsart , Nov 2 2020 4:52 AM

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#1 Offline millsart - Posted November 2 2020 - 4:52 AM

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Hello
I have some Messor capitatus colonies living in ytong nests.
I am thinking to add some silverfish in these nests to reduce the amount of cleaning and therefore reduce the amount of stress.
What do you think of this?
Anyone have some experience with silverfish and ants?
Thank you

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#2 Offline KitsAntVa - Posted November 2 2020 - 5:17 AM

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If they can escape muhahahhaha, possibly if they can jump, i have wild silverfish that live in moist conditions that can jump, springtails would be very good for a moist dirt set up, or booklice for a dry set up. sadly you probably can't put anything live in there without it dying soon.


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#3 Offline millsart - Posted November 2 2020 - 7:01 AM

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If they can escape muhahahhaha, possibly if they can jump, i have wild silverfish that live in moist conditions that can jump, springtails would be very good for a moist dirt set up, or booklice for a dry set up.
sadly you probably can't put anything live in there without it dying soon.


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#4 Offline OhNoNotAgain - Posted November 4 2020 - 8:19 AM

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I did once do springtails in a dirt set-up with Pogonomyrmex. The Pogonomyrmex eventually died off (probably moisture and heat issues - it was impossible to monitor them as they covered their dirt tunnels). At one point there were a lot more springtails than there were ants, and I wonder if the ants got stressed. I don't know, of course.


Formiculture Journals::

Veromessor pergandei, andrei; Novomessor cockerelli

Camponotus fragilis; also separate journal: Camponotus sansabeanus, vicinus, quercicola

Liometopum occidentale;  Prenolepis imparis; Myrmecocystus mexicanus

Pogonomyrmex subnitidus and previously californicus

Tetramorium sp.

Termites: Zootermopsis angusticollis

 

Isopods: A. gestroi, granulatum, kluugi, maculatum, vulgare; C. murina; P. hoffmannseggi, P. haasi, P. ornatus; V. parvus

Spoods: Phidippus sp.

#5 Offline KitsAntVa - Posted November 4 2020 - 8:26 AM

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only put in springtails with ants that are equipped with the speed and jaws to get springtails, both of which pogonomyrmex did not have. Messor are known for being slowish and have big pinchers which is not good for hunting small jumping springtails. 


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#6 Offline NickAnter - Posted November 4 2020 - 9:03 AM

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They would be a tasty meal for the larvae.


Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 

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