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#1 Offline AntFun2001 - Posted September 25 2020 - 8:41 AM

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Hi there guys. I had a quick question

 

I have a harvester ant colony and the fist nanitic had arrived about 2 1/2 weeks ago. Since then 4 more have arrived.

 

I took a look at them yesterday and noticed the first nanitic was dying. I'm not very knowledgeable on keeping ants and was wondering if this is an area of concern. They have been taking every food source the species can take and appear to be doing well. It just seems a bit early for a newborn ant to die. I was under the assumption that a worker generally has a lifespan of a month. I've read a couple posts of people reporting their nanitics living for a very long time.

 

It's going to sound weird but I purposefully got myself stung. I'm sure this has an effect on an ant.

 

Any information would be great. 



#2 Offline TechAnt - Posted September 25 2020 - 8:44 AM

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What set-up are they in, and are you in a cold climate? Also, a parasite or virus could have killed the worker. 


Edited by TechAnt, September 25 2020 - 8:46 AM.

My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#3 Offline Ants_Dakota - Posted September 25 2020 - 8:55 AM

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i'd just say nanitics are so spindly, that they die easily. or the queen could have been brood boosted early on, and that worker is now finally dying.


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#4 Offline TechAnt - Posted September 25 2020 - 8:57 AM

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i'd just say nanitics are so spindly, that they die easily. or the queen could have been brood boosted early on, and that worker is now finally dying.

I think Pogomyrmex workers, being rather tough in ant terms. Would probably not die for no reason.


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My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#5 Offline AntFun2001 - Posted September 25 2020 - 10:05 AM

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i'd just say nanitics are so spindly, that they die easily. or the queen could have been brood boosted early on, and that worker is now finally dying.

I think Pogomyrmex workers, being rather tough in ant terms. Would probably not die for no reason.

 

Yeah I thought it was pretty odd. They are in a fortress III formicarium from Tarheel Ants. The colony is about 2 1/2 months old.

 

I did totally see a little insect walking around in the formicarium. Very small, able to walk between the glass and the nest material. I don't think it was any kind of mite. I don't think it was small enough but dunno. 

 

Although I did notice that in the nanitics' last few days it was just very inactive. Hovering around in a couple spots, hanging on different parts of the nest etc. Not really contributing at all.

 

I am not in a cold climate. The room is temperature controlled to the right temp.

 

I've heard many different opinions on this so I'm not sure what to think. I had a very strange thing happen about a year ago with all my colonies. They appeared to die off by poison, my guess was exposure to pesticides outside. My colonies a year ago were kept in a room with the window completely open, exposed to a very urban-city environment.

 

Although this current harvester colony's nanitic didn't die at all the same way. The last time when the colonies died they all died in a weeks length period and was easily noticeable. They had all died *struggling* for life, getting back on their legs and stumbling back over on their backs. This ant seems to be dying like I've seen ants normally die. The bottom line of what I'm saying now is, this colony's first feeder protein, a red runner roach, was given to them 2 days ago. I keep this colony of roaches outside, possibly exposed to a pesticide. Feeding a roach from outside may have been what lead the nanitic to die. I don't think it was a parasite from the roach, I freeze all my feeders before I feed my animals. Just an idea. What do you guys think?



#6 Offline TechAnt - Posted September 25 2020 - 10:16 AM

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i'd just say nanitics are so spindly, that they die easily. or the queen could have been brood boosted early on, and that worker is now finally dying.

I think Pogomyrmex workers, being rather tough in ant terms. Would probably not die for no reason.

 

Yeah I thought it was pretty odd. They are in a fortress III formicarium from Tarheel Ants. The colony is about 2 1/2 months old.

 

I did totally see a little insect walking around in the formicarium. Very small, able to walk between the glass and the nest material. I don't think it was any kind of mite. I don't think it was small enough but dunno. 

 

Although I did notice that in the nanitics' last few days it was just very inactive. Hovering around in a couple spots, hanging on different parts of the nest etc. Not really contributing at all.

 

I am not in a cold climate. The room is temperature controlled to the right temp.

 

I've heard many different opinions on this so I'm not sure what to think. I had a very strange thing happen about a year ago with all my colonies. They appeared to die off by poison, my guess was exposure to pesticides outside. My colonies a year ago were kept in a room with the window completely open, exposed to a very urban-city environment.

 

Although this current harvester colony's nanitic didn't die at all the same way. The last time when the colonies died they all died in a weeks length period and was easily noticeable. They had all died *struggling* for life, getting back on their legs and stumbling back over on their backs. This ant seems to be dying like I've seen ants normally die. The bottom line of what I'm saying now is, this colony's first feeder protein, a red runner roach, was given to them 2 days ago. I keep this colony of roaches outside, possibly exposed to a pesticide. Feeding a roach from outside may have been what lead the nanitic to die. I don't think it was a parasite from the roach, I freeze all my feeders before I feed my animals. Just an idea. What do you guys think?

 

It could have had a defect internally and was bound to die anyways, but it seems unlikely. That little insect you saw could be the culprit, personally, I would wait for further developments before taking action on anything. Is the rest of the colony behaving normally?


Edited by TechAnt, September 25 2020 - 10:17 AM.

My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#7 Offline AntFun2001 - Posted September 25 2020 - 10:26 AM

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i'd just say nanitics are so spindly, that they die easily. or the queen could have been brood boosted early on, and that worker is now finally dying.

I think Pogomyrmex workers, being rather tough in ant terms. Would probably not die for no reason.

 

Yeah I thought it was pretty odd. They are in a fortress III formicarium from Tarheel Ants. The colony is about 2 1/2 months old.

 

I did totally see a little insect walking around in the formicarium. Very small, able to walk between the glass and the nest material. I don't think it was any kind of mite. I don't think it was small enough but dunno. 

 

Although I did notice that in the nanitics' last few days it was just very inactive. Hovering around in a couple spots, hanging on different parts of the nest etc. Not really contributing at all.

 

I am not in a cold climate. The room is temperature controlled to the right temp.

 

I've heard many different opinions on this so I'm not sure what to think. I had a very strange thing happen about a year ago with all my colonies. They appeared to die off by poison, my guess was exposure to pesticides outside. My colonies a year ago were kept in a room with the window completely open, exposed to a very urban-city environment.

 

Although this current harvester colony's nanitic didn't die at all the same way. The last time when the colonies died they all died in a weeks length period and was easily noticeable. They had all died *struggling* for life, getting back on their legs and stumbling back over on their backs. This ant seems to be dying like I've seen ants normally die. The bottom line of what I'm saying now is, this colony's first feeder protein, a red runner roach, was given to them 2 days ago. I keep this colony of roaches outside, possibly exposed to a pesticide. Feeding a roach from outside may have been what lead the nanitic to die. I don't think it was a parasite from the roach, I freeze all my feeders before I feed my animals. Just an idea. What do you guys think?

 

It could have had a defect internally and was bound to die anyways, but it seems unlikely. That little insect you saw could be the culprit, personally, I would wait for further developments before taking action on anything. Is the rest of the colony behaving normally?

 

 

Yeah I getchu. Everybody else is completely fine. Not planning on doing anything now. If I can get a picture of that insect I'll post it on this thread. It doesn't really bother the ants, kinda just roams around probably liking the moisture in the nest. I really don't know.



#8 Offline ANTdrew - Posted September 25 2020 - 10:59 AM

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Sounds like a grain mite. Be prepared for a LOT more to show up, but they won’t harm the ants.
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#9 Offline AntFun2001 - Posted September 25 2020 - 12:11 PM

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Sounds like a grain mite. Be prepared for a LOT more to show up, but they won’t harm the ants.

Yup. Might be. Not gonna do anything now but If a lot show up then Ill move the colony out temporarily and put the formicarium in the freezer 



#10 Offline Queen - Posted October 20 2020 - 12:14 PM

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Sounds like a grain mite. Be prepared for a LOT more to show up, but they won’t harm the ants.

Yup. Might be. Not gonna do anything now but If a lot show up then Ill move the colony out temporarily and put the formicarium in the freezer 

 

So what was the conclusion? Did more workers die?






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