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California, CA (Carlsbad) Species ID Request


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#1 Offline zantezaint - Posted August 2 2020 - 9:47 AM

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1. Carlsbad, CA.
2. 8/1//2020.
3. Desert sand on trail near marshland, trees.
4. 3 mm (Slightly bigger than a Solenopsis molesta queen, but smaller than most species).
5. Black, but not glossy.
6. Workers have straight neat ant trails, queens are always within ant trails, and worker population in that area must have been in millions.
7. Move with moderate speed.
8. No mounds at entrance, just holes.

9. 11 P.M.

 

Species guess, but without certainty: Argentine ants (Linepithema humile).

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Edited by zantezaint, August 4 2020 - 2:05 PM.

https://www.formicul...ale-california/

 

4 x Solenopsis xyloni (Fire ant) colonies.

2 x Veromessor andrei (Seed-harvester ant) colonies.

19 x Pogonomyrmex subnitidus (Seed-harvester ant) colonies + 3 x Pogonomyrmex (ID uncertain) colonies

16 x Linepithema humile (Argentine ant) colonies.

1 x Unknown Formicidae colony.

1 x Tapinoma sessile (Odorous house ant) colony.

1 x Camponotus fragilis (Carpenter/wood ant) colony + 1 x Camponotus sansabeanus (Carpenter/wood ant) colony.

1 x Solenopsis molesta (Thief ant) colony.


#2 Offline gcsnelling - Posted August 2 2020 - 9:50 AM

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Pictures?



#3 Offline AntsDakota - Posted August 2 2020 - 10:13 AM

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There's an attached image.


"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. (including ants) And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version


#4 Offline gcsnelling - Posted August 2 2020 - 10:24 AM

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Ah there they is, yup looks like Linepithema.


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#5 Offline TechAnt - Posted August 2 2020 - 10:47 AM

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Linepithema humile, just like you guessed.
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My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#6 Offline zantezaint - Posted August 2 2020 - 10:48 AM

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There is a war going on between Linepithema and Pogonomyrmex. The Pogonomyrmex were always outnumbered and losing. Savage, barbaric, and merciless...

 

 

 

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https://www.formicul...ale-california/

 

4 x Solenopsis xyloni (Fire ant) colonies.

2 x Veromessor andrei (Seed-harvester ant) colonies.

19 x Pogonomyrmex subnitidus (Seed-harvester ant) colonies + 3 x Pogonomyrmex (ID uncertain) colonies

16 x Linepithema humile (Argentine ant) colonies.

1 x Unknown Formicidae colony.

1 x Tapinoma sessile (Odorous house ant) colony.

1 x Camponotus fragilis (Carpenter/wood ant) colony + 1 x Camponotus sansabeanus (Carpenter/wood ant) colony.

1 x Solenopsis molesta (Thief ant) colony.


#7 Offline TechAnt - Posted August 2 2020 - 10:49 AM

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I want to get a hose and spray that pile of Argentines so bad..
My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#8 Offline zantezaint - Posted August 2 2020 - 10:49 AM

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Thanks again guys! Case closed.


https://www.formicul...ale-california/

 

4 x Solenopsis xyloni (Fire ant) colonies.

2 x Veromessor andrei (Seed-harvester ant) colonies.

19 x Pogonomyrmex subnitidus (Seed-harvester ant) colonies + 3 x Pogonomyrmex (ID uncertain) colonies

16 x Linepithema humile (Argentine ant) colonies.

1 x Unknown Formicidae colony.

1 x Tapinoma sessile (Odorous house ant) colony.

1 x Camponotus fragilis (Carpenter/wood ant) colony + 1 x Camponotus sansabeanus (Carpenter/wood ant) colony.

1 x Solenopsis molesta (Thief ant) colony.


#9 Offline Swirlysnowflake - Posted August 2 2020 - 12:14 PM

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1. Carlsbad, CA.
2. 8/1//2020.
3. Desert sand on trail near marshland, trees).
4. 3 mm (Slightly bigger than a Solenopsis molesta queen, but smaller than most species).
5. Black, but not glossy.
6. Workers have straight neat ant trails, queens are always within ant trails, and worker population in that area must have been in millions).
7. Move with moderate speed.
8. No mounds at entrance, just holes.

9. 11 P.M.

 

Species guess, but without certainty: Argentine ants (Linepithema humile).

 

Are you by any chance selling the ants? I really want a colony of L. Humile, but no one seems to be selling them


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#10 Offline SleepyAsianAnter - Posted August 2 2020 - 12:18 PM

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1. Carlsbad, CA.
2. 8/1//2020.
3. Desert sand on trail near marshland, trees).
4. 3 mm (Slightly bigger than a Solenopsis molesta queen, but smaller than most species).
5. Black, but not glossy.
6. Workers have straight neat ant trails, queens are always within ant trails, and worker population in that area must have been in millions).
7. Move with moderate speed.
8. No mounds at entrance, just holes.

9. 11 P.M.

 

Species guess, but without certainty: Argentine ants (Linepithema humile).

 

Are you by any chance selling the ants? I really want a colony of L. Humile, but no one seems to be selling them

 

There's a good reason they aren't sold. If you don't have any in your area, keep it that way. 


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#11 Offline Swirlysnowflake - Posted August 2 2020 - 2:50 PM

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1. Carlsbad, CA.
2. 8/1//2020.
3. Desert sand on trail near marshland, trees).
4. 3 mm (Slightly bigger than a Solenopsis molesta queen, but smaller than most species).
5. Black, but not glossy.
6. Workers have straight neat ant trails, queens are always within ant trails, and worker population in that area must have been in millions).
7. Move with moderate speed.
8. No mounds at entrance, just holes.

9. 11 P.M.


Species guess, but without certainty: Argentine ants (Linepithema humile).

Are you by any chance selling the ants? I really want a colony of L. Humile, but no one seems to be selling them
There's a good reason they aren't sold. If you don't have any in your area, keep it that way.
They are in my area, look at my thread in the marketplace

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#12 Offline Swirlysnowflake - Posted August 2 2020 - 2:52 PM

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Edited by Swirlysnowflake, August 2 2020 - 2:52 PM.

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#13 Offline zantezaint - Posted August 2 2020 - 6:40 PM

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I will pm you Swirly.


https://www.formicul...ale-california/

 

4 x Solenopsis xyloni (Fire ant) colonies.

2 x Veromessor andrei (Seed-harvester ant) colonies.

19 x Pogonomyrmex subnitidus (Seed-harvester ant) colonies + 3 x Pogonomyrmex (ID uncertain) colonies

16 x Linepithema humile (Argentine ant) colonies.

1 x Unknown Formicidae colony.

1 x Tapinoma sessile (Odorous house ant) colony.

1 x Camponotus fragilis (Carpenter/wood ant) colony + 1 x Camponotus sansabeanus (Carpenter/wood ant) colony.

1 x Solenopsis molesta (Thief ant) colony.


#14 Offline JenC - Posted August 3 2020 - 3:37 PM

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You really gonna sell argentines? They don't do the best in captivity.
Current Colonies:
1x Camponotus Vicinus (3 Workers)

Single Queens:
3x Camponotus Clarithorax
4x Camponotus Maritimus
5x Camponotus Ca02
7x Camponotus Sansabeanus
1x Myrmecocustus Testaceus
3x Prenolepis Imparis

#15 Offline zantezaint - Posted August 3 2020 - 7:28 PM

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You really gonna sell argentines? They don't do the best in captivity.

Yeah. I was thinking of selling them. Are there any well known ant species that don't do well in captivity or is this just an Argentine ant thing?


Edited by zantezaint, August 3 2020 - 7:28 PM.

https://www.formicul...ale-california/

 

4 x Solenopsis xyloni (Fire ant) colonies.

2 x Veromessor andrei (Seed-harvester ant) colonies.

19 x Pogonomyrmex subnitidus (Seed-harvester ant) colonies + 3 x Pogonomyrmex (ID uncertain) colonies

16 x Linepithema humile (Argentine ant) colonies.

1 x Unknown Formicidae colony.

1 x Tapinoma sessile (Odorous house ant) colony.

1 x Camponotus fragilis (Carpenter/wood ant) colony + 1 x Camponotus sansabeanus (Carpenter/wood ant) colony.

1 x Solenopsis molesta (Thief ant) colony.


#16 Offline TechAnt - Posted August 3 2020 - 7:33 PM

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You really gonna sell argentines? They don't do the best in captivity.

Yeah. I was thinking of selling them. Are there any well known ant species that don't do well in captivity or is this just an Argentine ant thing?
Plenty of ants don’t do well in captivity, because of environment matters, stress, natural requirements, etc. Like things like Atta spp. need extremely high humidity in order to live in and for their fungus to grow.
My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#17 Offline zantezaint - Posted August 3 2020 - 7:37 PM

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You really gonna sell argentines? They don't do the best in captivity.

Yeah. I was thinking of selling them. Are there any well known ant species that don't do well in captivity or is this just an Argentine ant thing?
Plenty of ants don’t do well in captivity, because of environment matters, stress, natural requirements, etc. Like things like Atta spp. need extremely high humidity in order to live in and for their fungus to grow.

 

So does Jen C have something against Argentine or is she dead serious about Argentine not doing well in captivity than any other species?


https://www.formicul...ale-california/

 

4 x Solenopsis xyloni (Fire ant) colonies.

2 x Veromessor andrei (Seed-harvester ant) colonies.

19 x Pogonomyrmex subnitidus (Seed-harvester ant) colonies + 3 x Pogonomyrmex (ID uncertain) colonies

16 x Linepithema humile (Argentine ant) colonies.

1 x Unknown Formicidae colony.

1 x Tapinoma sessile (Odorous house ant) colony.

1 x Camponotus fragilis (Carpenter/wood ant) colony + 1 x Camponotus sansabeanus (Carpenter/wood ant) colony.

1 x Solenopsis molesta (Thief ant) colony.


#18 Offline TechAnt - Posted August 3 2020 - 7:39 PM

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You really gonna sell argentines? They don't do the best in captivity.

Yeah. I was thinking of selling them. Are there any well known ant species that don't do well in captivity or is this just an Argentine ant thing?
Plenty of ants don’t do well in captivity, because of environment matters, stress, natural requirements, etc. Like things like Atta spp. need extremely high humidity in order to live in and for their fungus to grow.
So does Jen C have something against Argentine or is she dead serious about Argentine not doing well in captivity than any other species?
Argentines and other ants always have their weaknesses, but I’m not sure that they don’t do well in captivity as they are well known pests for living in doors.

But I still want to point out only experienced ant keepers, with many colonies and the proper housing should keep them. I don’t think you guys have the stuff for keeping Argentines, they grow fast, quickly, and are escape artists. Only people who have many years of experience should keep them. Argentines grow at the pace of fire ants = REALLY REALLY REALLY FAST. So please, please do not keep them until you know how to treat them properly. If you really want to keep them, if you ever can’t handle them, kill them, please don’t release them.

Edited by TechAnt, August 3 2020 - 7:42 PM.

My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#19 Offline ponerinecat - Posted August 3 2020 - 7:40 PM

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You really gonna sell argentines? They don't do the best in captivity.

Yeah. I was thinking of selling them. Are there any well known ant species that don't do well in captivity or is this just an Argentine ant thing?
Plenty of ants don’t do well in captivity, because of environment matters, stress, natural requirements, etc. Like things like Atta spp. need extremely high humidity in order to live in and for their fungus to grow.

 

So does Jen C have something against Argentine or is she dead serious about Argentine not doing well in captivity than any other species?

 

Both, invasive argentines don't seem to do especially well in typical captive conditions (and no one likes humile). And Jen C is a he.



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You really gonna sell argentines? They don't do the best in captivity.

Yeah. I was thinking of selling them. Are there any well known ant species that don't do well in captivity or is this just an Argentine ant thing?
Plenty of ants don’t do well in captivity, because of environment matters, stress, natural requirements, etc. Like things like Atta spp. need extremely high humidity in order to live in and for their fungus to grow.
So does Jen C have something against Argentine or is she dead serious about Argentine not doing well in captivity than any other species?
Both, invasive argentines don't seem to do especially well in typical captive conditions (and no one likes humile). And Jen C is a he.
You do make a good point as Argentines are meant for the outdoors not glass test tubes and Ytong formicaria and such.
My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen




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