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#1 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 11 2020 - 9:46 AM

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Went to a local trail and saw pogonomyrmex rugosus queens wandering in and out of the colony. They looked like they were getting ready to fly but weren't. They are supposed to fly in July but it hasn't rained in a long time and probably won't for a while. Are the queens flying soon or are they just messing with me? Should I go back? There is only one colony so if they are flying and if I went back, would I get anything? Thanks!

 

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#2 Offline AntsMaryland - Posted July 11 2020 - 9:47 AM

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They will fly when the conditions are ideal for them. However, I don't know if rain triggers this species or high heats, etc.


Aphaenogaster cf. rudis 

Tetramorium immigrans 

Tapinoma sessile

Formica subsericea

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#3 Offline Broncos - Posted July 11 2020 - 9:53 AM

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What is the trail called


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#4 Offline ponerinecat - Posted July 11 2020 - 9:56 AM

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Went to a local trail and saw pogonomyrmex rugosus queens wandering in and out of the colony. They looked like they were getting ready to fly but weren't. They are supposed to fly in July but it hasn't rained in a long time and probably won't for a while. Are the queens flying soon or are they just messing with me? Should I go back? There is only one colony so if they are flying and if I went back, would I get anything? Thanks!

 

They're testing the conditions pretty much. Almost all ants will do this until something like male pheromones triggers them. If they try to fly early workers will stop them.



#5 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 11 2020 - 10:08 AM

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What is the trail called


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Veromessor pergandei

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#6 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 11 2020 - 10:14 AM

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So sounds to me like I shouldn't bother going back?


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#7 Offline ANTdrew - Posted July 11 2020 - 10:48 AM

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Luck favors the vigilant. Monitor conditions and go back as often as you can.
"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
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#8 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 11 2020 - 10:51 AM

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Conditions?

It's even hotter today. Is that a good thing?


Edited by M_Ants, July 11 2020 - 10:55 AM.

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Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

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#9 Offline ANTdrew - Posted July 11 2020 - 11:00 AM

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You should connect with the large number of CA members on this forum. Ask them what conditions to look for that trigger this species’ flights. Go through the archives as well. Research, research, research. Finding queens is really easy if you know what to look for.
"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
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#10 Offline SleepyAsianAnter - Posted July 11 2020 - 11:06 AM

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i had a few flights very recently, maybe even this morning, for P. Subnitidus, I'm only an hour from mission trails so I wouldn't be suprised if they fly today



#11 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 11 2020 - 11:54 AM

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i had a few flights very recently, maybe even this morning, for P. Subnitidus, I'm only an hour from mission trails so I wouldn't be suprised if they fly today

Even without rain?


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#12 Offline SleepyAsianAnter - Posted July 11 2020 - 1:03 PM

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i had a few flights very recently, maybe even this morning, for P. Subnitidus, I'm only an hour from mission trails so I wouldn't be suprised if they fly today

Even without rain?

 

 

Yes, their flights were triggered by heat spikes



#13 Offline gcsnelling - Posted July 11 2020 - 2:25 PM

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The only time I have ever seen P. rugosus fly is after rain during the summer, so they need both. If they go early odds of successful colony founding is  greatly reduced.


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#14 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 11 2020 - 5:12 PM

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Well it doesn't rain here in the summer. It does in the desert but not here.


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#15 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 11 2020 - 5:14 PM

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Are they morning or evening flyers?


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#16 Offline gcsnelling - Posted July 11 2020 - 5:55 PM

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Well it doesn't rain here in the summer. It does in the desert but not here.

Then perhaps consider relative humidity.



#17 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 11 2020 - 8:25 PM

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I went. Saw more queens in nest but no flights.


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#18 Offline AntsDakota - Posted July 12 2020 - 6:39 AM

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Go again.


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#19 Offline M_Ants - Posted July 12 2020 - 9:47 AM

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Today?


Probably can't.


Veromessor pergandei

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Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

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