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Zagreb, Croatia; 3 July 2020


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#1 Offline Domagoj - Posted July 3 2020 - 10:37 AM

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Can anybody ID this girl?

I actually caught four of them at the same time, same location, they look very similar, so I assume they're the same species. All the photos are of one of them.
1. Location of collection: Zagreb, Croatia 

2. Date of collection:  Sunday 28 June 2020, 11 PM local.
3. Habitat of collection: they flew into my house, the surrounding neighborhood is mostly family houses with small gardens.
4. Length: 8 - 8,5 mm
5. Coloration, hue, pattern and texture: dark brown, almost black to the eye (they appear a bit lighter on the photos than in real life), fairly uniform coloration
6. Distinguishing characteristics: sorry, don't know nearly enough to spot something as distinguishing
7. Anything else distinctive: nothing comes to mind
8. Nest description: No nest, they flew into my house

9. Nuptial flight time and date: I didn't see the nuptial flight, but I'd say Sunday 28 June 2020, evening. My neighbor commented they witnessed a lot of ants that day as well, so nuptial flight was most likely just before I caught them

10. Pictures:

 

Millimetre scale in the background of the first picture.

 

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#2 Offline NickAnter - Posted July 3 2020 - 10:50 AM

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Doesnt look like niger to me, the color seems off. Not sure what it is though.


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


#3 Offline TechAnt - Posted July 3 2020 - 11:38 AM

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Campontous? Formica possibly?
My Ants:
(x1) Campontous semitstaceus ~20 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Camponotus vicinus ~10 workers, 1 Queen (all black variety)
(x1) Tetramorium immigrans ~100 workers, 1 Queen
(x1) Myrmercocystus mexicanus -1 Queen
(x2) Mymercocystus mimcus -1 Queen
(x1) Mymercocystus testaceus ~45 workers, 1 Queen

#4 Offline Antkid12 - Posted July 3 2020 - 11:42 AM

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Pretty sure this is Lasius sp.


Edited by Antkid12, July 3 2020 - 11:43 AM.

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Ants I have: Tapinoma sessile(2 queen colony). RED MORPH Camponotus neacticus(now has pupae!), Tetramorium immigrans (x3), Aphaenogaster sp, Temnothorax sp, Brachymyrmex sp.   possibly infertile   :(,  Ponera pennsylvanica, and Pheidole morrisi!  :yahoo: 

 

Other insects: Polistes sp. Queen

                    

Ants I need: Pheidole sp., Trachymyrmex sp., Crematogaster cerasi , Dorymyrmex sp. Most wanted: Pheidole morrisii

 

                    

                   

 

 


#5 Online ANTdrew - Posted July 3 2020 - 1:40 PM

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Where’s Skocko when you need him?
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"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
Keep ordinary ants in extraordinary ways.

#6 Offline AntsDakota - Posted July 3 2020 - 2:07 PM

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Campontous? Formica possibly?

No, Lasius.
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"God made..... all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. (including ants) And God saw that it was good. Genesis 1:25 NIV version


#7 Offline Manitobant - Posted July 3 2020 - 2:29 PM

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Lasius emarginatus queen.
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#8 Offline Domagoj - Posted July 3 2020 - 9:10 PM

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Thank you guys for the effort. Would additional photos help? If so, anything particular I should try to focus on?
Emarginatus whoud have redish thorax, this one doesn't.

#9 Offline AnthonyP163 - Posted July 3 2020 - 9:22 PM

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Lasius brunneus queen



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#10 Offline Domagoj - Posted July 14 2020 - 12:09 AM

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A bit of an update, I contacted two local ant enthusiasts (actually, one of them is a professional ant scientist) with the pictures I posted above and their assessment is L. Emarginatus and Niger.


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#11 Online ANTdrew - Posted July 14 2020 - 2:13 AM

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L. emarginatus seem really cool and their coloration is beautiful. The only Lasius queens I find are all parasites and more trouble than they’re worth.
"The ants are a people not strong, yet they prepare their meat in the summer." Prov. 30:25
Keep ordinary ants in extraordinary ways.

#12 Offline Domagoj - Posted August 4 2020 - 11:24 AM

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Today, I found one of the queens dead. It's not a pretty sight, she seems to have succumbed to some sort of mold.

It is, however, an opportunity to get a better picture for update on the ID. Definitely doesn't look black any more.

Anybody wants to affirm or amend their stance? Thanks.

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