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ID request for 3 queens


Best Answer AntsDakota , June 6 2020 - 10:18 AM

#1 looks like Camponotus
#2 is Formica, looks like a social parasite; could also be F. pacifica, not a parasite
#3 is a wasp Go to the full post


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#1 Offline Antliebe - Posted June 6 2020 - 10:16 AM

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Hello!

I am new to this forum and happy to say we have caught our first queens!  Yay!  We would love your help in identifying them.  When you reply and hear a loud "yahoo!" coming from the Northwest, know that is my 8 year old daughter bouncing off the walls with excitement.  :)

Thank you in advance!

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Ant #1

1. Location (on a map) of collection: Umitilla, Oregon
2. Date of collection: June 2, 2020
3. Habitat of collection: Found her in a pond
4. Length (from head to gaster): 3/8"
5. Color, hue, pattern and texture: Black with red legs, red antanna, black gaster
6. Distinguishing characteristics: Shed all her wings except for one
7. Distinguishing behavior: Do not know
8. Nest description: Has not laid yet

9. Nuptial flight time and date: Guessing it was the morning of June 2nd
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Ant #2

1. Location (on a map) of collection: Umitilla, Oregon
2. Date of collection: June 2, 2020
3. Habitat of collection: Found her in a pond
4. Length (from head to gaster): 3/8"
5. Color, hue, pattern and texture: Head and gaster are black, thorax is red, legs and antanna are shiny red
6. Distinguishing characteristics: Do not know
7. Distinguishing behavior: Do not know
8. Nest description: Has not laid yet

9. Nuptial flight time and date: Guessing it was the morning of June 2nd

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Ant #3

1. Location (on a map) of collection: Portland, Oregon
2. Date of collection: June 4, 2020
3. Habitat of collection: Found her in a kiddie pool we set up to try and catch queens :)
4. Length (from head to gaster): 3/16"
5. Color, hue, pattern and texture: Black body, yellow triangle pattern on face, shiny black legs
6. Distinguishing characteristics: Small
7. Distinguishing behavior: Do not know
8. Nest description: Has not laid yet

9. Nuptial flight time and date: Guessing it was around noon on June 4th

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#2 Offline AntsDakota - Posted June 6 2020 - 10:18 AM   Best Answer

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#1 looks like Camponotus
#2 is Formica, looks like a social parasite; could also be F. pacifica, not a parasite
#3 is a wasp

Edited by AntsDakota, June 6 2020 - 10:19 AM.

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#3 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted June 6 2020 - 10:20 AM

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#1 looks like Camponotus
#2 is Formica, looks like a social parasite; could also be F. pacifica, not a parasite
#3 is a wasp

I second this.


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#4 Offline Antliebe - Posted June 6 2020 - 10:26 AM

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Thank you so much for the responses. 

I do not know anything about social parasites.  Is this mean that it isn't a queen?  Should I release it then?  Sorry for the newbie questions.

Bummer the third one is a wasp!  Guess we will be releasing them today.  :)



#5 Offline AnthonyP163 - Posted June 6 2020 - 10:30 AM

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#1 appears to be a Formica sp., If it is Camponotus, the head, mandibles, and size are strange. 

#2 also appears to be Formica, perhaps pacifica like previously mentioned?

#3 wasp


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#6 Offline Antennal_Scrobe - Posted June 6 2020 - 10:30 AM

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If it's a social parasite, you should release it. They can be cared for, but you will need to find the correct host ant and carefully introduce workers and brood, a process which may fail even if you do it right. I think that queen is probably Fromica pacifica and not a social parasite, so you should be fine.


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Currently keeping:

 

Tetramorium immigrans, Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Myrmica punctiventris, Formica subsericea

Formica pallidefulva, Aphaeogaster cf. rudis

Camponotus pennsylvanicus

Camponotus nearcticus

Crematogaster cerasi

Temnothorax ambiguus

Prenolepis imparis


#7 Offline NickAnter - Posted June 6 2020 - 10:33 AM

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Queen 1) Looks to me like a neogagates group Formica, but I'm not sure. Looks a bit like F. neorufibarbis.

Queen 2) Doesnt look like pacifica to me, and I'm not sure what it is.

3) Bee of some sorts.


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Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


#8 Offline Antliebe - Posted June 6 2020 - 10:46 AM

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Thank you everyone for your responses!



#9 Offline ANTdrew - Posted June 6 2020 - 10:47 AM

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3) could be a Hylaeus bee, but I can’t see the yellow mentioned by the OP.
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