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Brad's Veromessor Pergandei Journal (Update 6-28-20)


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#1 Offline B_rad0806 - Posted April 29 2020 - 10:05 AM

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On Monday I ordered stuff from nurbs for my ants. He gave me 3 v2s and 2 polygynous Veromessor Pergandei queens. They took a long time to move because they had a bunch of eggs. I currently have them in a test tube with seeds.

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Edited by B_rad0806, June 28 2020 - 10:52 AM.

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#2 Offline M_Ants - Posted April 29 2020 - 4:43 PM

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I bought some as well. Good luck!


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#3 Offline M_Ants - Posted May 5 2020 - 11:43 AM

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Are you heating yours?


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#4 Offline B_rad0806 - Posted May 5 2020 - 12:46 PM

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No its too hot in my room. I just have them under my bed


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#5 Offline B_rad0806 - Posted May 8 2020 - 9:22 AM

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Update 5-8-20

I took a little peak on these guys and they have a ton of eggs. I haven't see any larvae yet.


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#6 Offline M_Ants - Posted May 8 2020 - 12:34 PM

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Are yours attacking their cotton ball?


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#7 Offline B_rad0806 - Posted May 8 2020 - 12:59 PM

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The water cotton ball yes. But the plug no. I was watching them and it was pretty funny


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#8 Offline M_Ants - Posted May 8 2020 - 1:09 PM

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Yeah mine have been attacking the cotton ball plug since they arrived. If yours are too at least I know its not something I'm doing wrong.


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#9 Offline TheAntGuy - Posted May 8 2020 - 10:45 PM

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Some of my polys are close to pupae, are you heating yours?
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#10 Offline M_Ants - Posted May 21 2020 - 1:35 PM

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Are yours still tearing at the cotton ball? I'm afraid mine are going to die of exhaustion. 


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Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

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#11 Offline B_rad0806 - Posted May 21 2020 - 1:56 PM

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Are yours still tearing at the cotton ball? I'm afraid mine are going to die of exhaustion. 

No, I don't think your Pergandei would die of exhaustion. They should be fine unless they chew their way through the cotton.


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#12 Offline M_Ants - Posted May 21 2020 - 2:06 PM

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Ok. Good to know. They haven't made much progress and the cotton is still intact. They just won't give up.


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#13 Offline M_Ants - Posted May 28 2020 - 12:18 PM

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Mine aren't laying eggs. 


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#14 Offline JenC - Posted May 28 2020 - 1:04 PM

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Give them seeds.


Current Colonies:
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4x Camponotus Maritimus
5x Camponotus Ca02
7x Camponotus Sansabeanus
1x Myrmecocustus Testaceus
3x Prenolepis Imparis

#15 Offline M_Ants - Posted May 28 2020 - 1:11 PM

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They have seeds but don't seem to do anything with them. They just pull at the cotton ball.


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#16 Offline OhNoNotAgain - Posted May 28 2020 - 3:45 PM

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Mine aren't laying eggs. 

 

Is the surface of the water side cotton wet? I think if not enough water is wicking through, sometimes ants will keep attacking the cotton.

Sometimes I don't think it has anything to do with it, though. Hard to know....


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Liometopum occidentale;  Prenolepis imparis; Myrmecocystus mexicanus

Pogonomyrmex subnitidus and previously californicus

Tetramorium sp.

Termites: Zootermopsis angusticollis

 

Isopods: A. gestroi, granulatum, kluugi, maculatum, vulgare; C. murina; P. hoffmannseggi, P. haasi, P. ornatus; V. parvus

Spoods: Phidippus sp.


#17 Offline OhNoNotAgain - Posted May 28 2020 - 3:47 PM

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Also Nurbs sent me a poly vero group in a short plastic transport tube. If that's what you have, you need to move them into a proper long tube with lots of water.


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Veromessor pergandei, andrei; Novomessor cockerelli

Camponotus fragilis; also separate journal: Camponotus sansabeanus, vicinus, quercicola

Liometopum occidentale;  Prenolepis imparis; Myrmecocystus mexicanus

Pogonomyrmex subnitidus and previously californicus

Tetramorium sp.

Termites: Zootermopsis angusticollis

 

Isopods: A. gestroi, granulatum, kluugi, maculatum, vulgare; C. murina; P. hoffmannseggi, P. haasi, P. ornatus; V. parvus

Spoods: Phidippus sp.


#18 Offline M_Ants - Posted May 28 2020 - 4:32 PM

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I moved them to a proper setup. There does appear to be air bubbles in the water end of the test tube. Should I redo it? 


Edited by M_Ants, May 28 2020 - 4:32 PM.

Veromessor pergandei

Veromessor andrei

Crematogaster sp. 

Pogonomyrmex cf cali and rugosus

Various Pheidole

C. yogi 

https://www.youtube....FG7utFVBA/about


#19 Offline JenC - Posted May 28 2020 - 4:40 PM

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Air bubbles are fine.


Current Colonies:
1x Camponotus Vicinus (3 Workers)

Single Queens:
3x Camponotus Clarithorax
4x Camponotus Maritimus
5x Camponotus Ca02
7x Camponotus Sansabeanus
1x Myrmecocustus Testaceus
3x Prenolepis Imparis

#20 Offline OhNoNotAgain - Posted May 28 2020 - 5:15 PM

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A few small bubbles are fine. Just make sure that water is wicking its way to the ants over the next week or so. It doesn't have to be like super wet or anything, but if too much of it is drying out (like for example if half the cotton looks super dry) then you might need to try again. (Actually it's always good to check on the cotton as time goes by. Like today my Preno group's cotton was remarkably pink. Yuck.)


Edited by OhNoNotAgain, May 28 2020 - 5:18 PM.

Formiculture Journals::

Veromessor pergandei, andrei; Novomessor cockerelli

Camponotus fragilis; also separate journal: Camponotus sansabeanus, vicinus, quercicola

Liometopum occidentale;  Prenolepis imparis; Myrmecocystus mexicanus

Pogonomyrmex subnitidus and previously californicus

Tetramorium sp.

Termites: Zootermopsis angusticollis

 

Isopods: A. gestroi, granulatum, kluugi, maculatum, vulgare; C. murina; P. hoffmannseggi, P. haasi, P. ornatus; V. parvus

Spoods: Phidippus sp.





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