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When do I start feeding a Trachymyrmex queen?


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#1 Offline Wedge - Posted June 8 2019 - 9:10 AM

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So I went out after an afternoon rain the other day to see if there was any activity and was fortunate enough to find a few Trachymyrmex septentrionalis queens running around after a pretty massive nuptial flight. It was awesome to watch as there were at least ten colonies involved in the same little area. I waited around for about thirty minutes as I saw alates at the nest entrances poking their heads in and out and then all at once workers started spilling out followed shortly by all the alates which climbed the grasses and started taking off. It was the first active nuptial flight that I had witnessed other than fire ants. It lasted about 30 minutes and then just as quickly as it had started, it was over and all the ants retreated back into their nests.

 

The queens I was able to find were without wings walking around and one had started digging a founding chamber so I am pretty sure they are mated. I have them in acrylic containers with hydrostone floors that can be hydrated by a tube that connects to the outside. It has been about 5 days but I don't see any fungal pellets being deposited yet.  Do I need to start giving them substrate to start their fungus gardens yet or should I wait until they regurgitate their fungus? Also, is it fine to just put bits of rose petals and other things right on the same hydrostone floor they are on as long as I remove and replace it every few days, or should I go ahead and connect small out world foraging areas to their chambers to give them substrate for their gardens? I've read and looked at a lot of the Trachymyrmex and Acromyrmex journals here and have found them to be very helpful, but I wasn't sure about the timing of when to add the ability to forage in the very early founding stages. Thanks in advance for any advice.


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#2 Offline Acutus - Posted June 8 2019 - 9:14 AM

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WOW! congratulations!!! this is the only other species I really wanna try. Hopefully I'll have a bit of your luck. :D Sorry I can't help but I'll be watching this thread for sure! :D


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#3 Offline Ferox_Formicae - Posted June 8 2019 - 11:14 AM

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I don't have a founding queen of this species, but I do have two colonies. Mine really like rose petals and caterpillar frass, though they tend to go for the rose petals first though. I would give the queen an outworld though, as they forage pretty far to collect substrate for their fungus. Good luck with your queens!


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#4 Offline Martialis - Posted June 8 2019 - 12:11 PM

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Immediately I would presume. 

 

Trachymyrmex don't really farm fungus like the larger and more specialized Attines do, either. A queen on her own would probably prefer the frass to rose petals. You can try to give her frass from any insects you might have around your house or yard.


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#5 Offline Wedge - Posted June 9 2019 - 5:49 PM

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Thanks for the feedback. I will try something different with each of the three queens. I'll connect one to an out world foraging area, add frass and rose petals directly to the second and then just leave the third and wait to give her anything until she hopefully regurgitates her fungal pellet. I've been watching yen_saw's Atta texana journal and was surprised to see that they had grown their fungus to the size it is now without the addition of any substrate but obviously this is a different genus entirely so I'm not sure if they are capable of the same thing.


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#6 Offline Ferox_Formicae - Posted June 9 2019 - 5:59 PM

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Thanks for the feedback. I will try something different with each of the three queens. I'll connect one to an out world foraging area, add frass and rose petals directly to the second and then just leave the third and wait to give her anything until she hopefully regurgitates her fungal pellet. I've been watching yen_saw's Atta texana journal and was surprised to see that they had grown their fungus to the size it is now without the addition of any substrate but obviously this is a different genus entirely so I'm not sure if they are capable of the same thing.

Atta texana are fully claustral as opposed to Trachymyrmex septentrionalis. They do need substrate, while Atta texana can cultivate their fungus using their feces and unfertilized eggs, which would hatch into males otherwise.


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#7 Offline Wedge - Posted June 9 2019 - 6:10 PM

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Very interesting. I didn't know that but that's pretty cool. It would be nice if Trachymyrmex were fully claustral but that is neat about Atta texana


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Camponotus festinatus, Camponotus sansabaenus, Camponotus sayi, Camponotus texanus, Camponotus vicinus, Leptogenys elongata, Monomorium minimum, Pachycondyla harpax, Pheidole dentata, Pheidole floridana, 





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