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This creature is chillin inside my Lasius niger colony alongside the queens and workers

Started By ANTndonesia , Feb 17 2019 3:55 PM

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#1 Offline ANTndonesia - Posted February 17 2019 - 3:55 PM

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Is that little guy doing any harm to my colony or just friend with benefit?


Polyrhachis dives. I 5 Queens, 83 Workers. << This colony keep biting and pulling 2 of their queens from the nest, so i decided to get them out. P. Dives III and P. Dives IV.

Polyrhachis dives. II 1 Queen, 16 Workers. First egg February 12th 2019.
Polyrhachis dives. III 1 Queen, First egg May 15th 2019.
Polyrhachis dives. IV 1 Unfertilized Queen.

#2 Offline Shifty189 - Posted February 17 2019 - 4:09 PM

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Ignore this post, i was wrong :facepalm:

 

I am no expert by any stretch, but to me, it looks like a young brown-banded cockroach. Not that you asked :)

 

 

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#3 Offline Leo - Posted February 17 2019 - 4:21 PM

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Its an ant loving cricket. Totally cool and ok!


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#4 Offline Serafine - Posted February 17 2019 - 4:51 PM

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It may occasionally eat some brood but given the rate Lasius ants multiply that shouldn't even be noticeable.

We should respect all forms of consciousness. The body is just a vessel, a mere hull.

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#5 Offline CampoKing - Posted February 17 2019 - 5:01 PM

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I *think* it looks like one of the Myrmecophilidae, the ant crickets. I'll let Google fill in the details

#6 Offline FSTP - Posted February 18 2019 - 10:35 AM

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A lot of the Myrmecophilidae are commensal neither symbiotic or parasitic. However I'd keep a close eye on it.

 

Why do you have L. niger in Indonesia? did you acquire them from a seller over seas? I'm aware of some sellers in France and Germany that are willing to ship internationally and often stock that species.


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#7 Offline Martialis - Posted February 18 2019 - 11:00 AM

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I see you live in Indonesia. 

 

Given this, I highly doubt that the ants are indeed L. niger. Can you make a post about them in the ID center, or even in this topic?

 

Here's a template of how to do it:

 

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#8 Offline Leo - Posted February 18 2019 - 2:08 PM

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I see you live in Indonesia. 

 

Given this, I highly doubt that the ants are indeed L. niger. Can you make a post about them in the ID center, or even in this topic?

 

I was gonna ask that XD


#9 Offline FSTP - Posted February 18 2019 - 2:39 PM

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I'm thinking they are Laisius. that ant cricket looks could be Mymecophilis acervorem cf which is known to be commensal with Laisius spp. They're found all through Europe that's why I asked if he got the ants from the EU. It would be odd to find an ant loving cricket specialized for laisius to be found in Indonesia 


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#10 Offline Leo - Posted February 18 2019 - 3:42 PM

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I'm thinking they are Laisius. that ant cricket looks could be Mymecophilis acervorem cf which is known to be commensal with Laisius spp. They're found all through Europe that's why I asked if he got the ants from the EU. It would be odd to find an ant loving cricket specialized for laisius to be found in Indonesia 

There are a 2 kinds of commonly found ant crickets here, one larger and one smaller. The smaller is accepted by black crazy ants, but attacked by yellow (still live in their nests though) The larger is accepted by yellow crazy ants.


#11 Offline ANTndonesia - Posted February 18 2019 - 5:04 PM

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A lot of the Myrmecophilidae are commensal neither symbiotic or parasitic. However I'd keep a close eye on it.

 

Why do you have L. niger in Indonesia? did you acquire them from a seller over seas? I'm aware of some sellers in France and Germany that are willing to ship internationally and often stock that species.

No, i found it under a concrete block in my garden.
Actually there are still 4 or 5 queens under it, but they moved out because i sprayed water at their nest to get the queen.
I'm pretty sure that Lasius niger is native to Indonesia.
Let me know if I'm wrong.

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Edited by ANTndonesia, February 18 2019 - 5:13 PM.

Polyrhachis dives. I 5 Queens, 83 Workers. << This colony keep biting and pulling 2 of their queens from the nest, so i decided to get them out. P. Dives III and P. Dives IV.

Polyrhachis dives. II 1 Queen, 16 Workers. First egg February 12th 2019.
Polyrhachis dives. III 1 Queen, First egg May 15th 2019.
Polyrhachis dives. IV 1 Unfertilized Queen.

#12 Offline Martialis - Posted February 18 2019 - 5:21 PM

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I can tell you from those pictures that those aren't L. niger.

 

There aren't even any Lasius in Indonesia.


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#13 Offline ANTndonesia - Posted February 18 2019 - 5:29 PM

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I can tell you from those pictures that those aren't L. niger.

 

There aren't even any Lasius in Indonesia.

Well then, my bad, seem like I'm wrong and gonna go for ID now.


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Polyrhachis dives. I 5 Queens, 83 Workers. << This colony keep biting and pulling 2 of their queens from the nest, so i decided to get them out. P. Dives III and P. Dives IV.

Polyrhachis dives. II 1 Queen, 16 Workers. First egg February 12th 2019.
Polyrhachis dives. III 1 Queen, First egg May 15th 2019.
Polyrhachis dives. IV 1 Unfertilized Queen.

#14 Offline FSTP - Posted February 18 2019 - 9:09 PM

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They look like black Crazy ants Paratrechina longicornis


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#15 Offline Leo - Posted February 19 2019 - 12:33 AM

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They look like black Crazy ants Paratrechina longicornis

which is probably why the cricket is there, bca colonies often have those crickets


#16 Offline ANTndonesia - Posted February 19 2019 - 2:07 AM

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yeah sorry, i was wrong, a lot to learn in this hobby.

Polyrhachis dives. I 5 Queens, 83 Workers. << This colony keep biting and pulling 2 of their queens from the nest, so i decided to get them out. P. Dives III and P. Dives IV.

Polyrhachis dives. II 1 Queen, 16 Workers. First egg February 12th 2019.
Polyrhachis dives. III 1 Queen, First egg May 15th 2019.
Polyrhachis dives. IV 1 Unfertilized Queen.

#17 Offline Wa.Va - Posted February 19 2019 - 3:25 AM

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Lasius niger only has one queen per colony. They are really common here in Europe. U have to try ur best not to see them.
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