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#1 Offline olookitsme - Posted August 7 2021 - 8:04 PM

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hey all, I am looking for a local seller in or around the Joliet area who has Formica pallidefulva workers. I'm looking for maybe 50 of them all from the same colony. I need them for my 2 Polyergus sp queens. any help would be greatly appreciated as I seem to not be able to find any colonies near me.

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     3 Camponotus pennsylvanicus

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#2 Offline Manitobant - Posted August 7 2021 - 9:12 PM

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Formica pallidefulva have quite cryptic nesting habits, which makes things difficult. They don’t build large mounds like fusca group formica. However, if you have lots of formica subsericea or any other fusca group formica in your area, there is a chance that this is a rufescens-breviceps group polyergus species, which target fusca group species and not pallidefulva group species. P. breviceps has lots of records near your area, which makes this more likely.
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#3 Offline zA-Z0-9 - Posted August 7 2021 - 9:16 PM

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walk of shame and rejection i feel like the guy who just tried to bribe the president and he said no


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#4 Offline zA-Z0-9 - Posted August 7 2021 - 9:17 PM

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#5 Offline Manitobant - Posted August 7 2021 - 9:35 PM

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youre in luck dude i can totally help you i van sell you some but we would have to discuss it here mayberryisaiah223@gmail.com

you’re not in illinois, and even if you aren’t doing it on here you shouldn’t be setting up illegal trades, especially outside DMs.
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#6 Offline olookitsme - Posted August 7 2021 - 9:45 PM

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Formica pallidefulva have quite cryptic nesting habits, which makes things difficult. They don’t build large mounds like fusca group formica. However, if you have lots of formica subsericea or any other fusca group formica in your area, there is a chance that this is a rufescens-breviceps group polyergus species, which target fusca group species and not pallidefulva group species. P. breviceps has lots of records near your area, which makes this more likely.

here are the other pictures i took of her. unfortunately all pics come from my phone and my shaky hands, so quality will always be a little questionable. you got me nervous now, i'm a first year ant keeper and the discord i'm in says this can be a difficult species to keep. i don't want to be offering my 2 queens the wrong workers. i actually considered letting one of them go and follow it around and see where she will take me.

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#7 Offline Manitobant - Posted August 7 2021 - 9:47 PM

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Formica pallidefulva have quite cryptic nesting habits, which makes things difficult. They don’t build large mounds like fusca group formica. However, if you have lots of formica subsericea or any other fusca group formica in your area, there is a chance that this is a rufescens-breviceps group polyergus species, which target fusca group species and not pallidefulva group species. P. breviceps has lots of records near your area, which makes this more likely.

here are the other pictures i took of her. unfortunately all pics come from my phone and my shaky hands, so quality will always be a little questionable. you got me nervous now, i'm a first year ant keeper and the discord i'm in says this can be a difficult species to keep. i don't want to be offering my 2 queens the wrong workers. i actually considered letting one of them go and follow it around and see where she will take me.
here is a solution: offer one queen formica subsericea workers and the other formica pallidefulva workers. That way, at least one queen has the right host species. Also, i would use callow workers, as they quickly bond with the queen and will feed her.
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#8 Offline olookitsme - Posted August 7 2021 - 9:49 PM

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youre in luck dude i can totally help you i van sell you some but we would have to discuss it here mayberryisaiah223@gmail.com

you’re not in illinois, and even if you aren’t doing it on here you shouldn’t be setting up illegal trades, especially outside DMs.

 

i spoke to this person before through dm here about some Camponotus penns queens. their prices are pretty high, like $60 per queen unless you buy a certain amount to get a discounted price.


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     3 Formica pallidefulva

 


#9 Offline olookitsme - Posted August 7 2021 - 9:52 PM

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Formica pallidefulva have quite cryptic nesting habits, which makes things difficult. They don’t build large mounds like fusca group formica. However, if you have lots of formica subsericea or any other fusca group formica in your area, there is a chance that this is a rufescens-breviceps group polyergus species, which target fusca group species and not pallidefulva group species. P. breviceps has lots of records near your area, which makes this more likely.

here are the other pictures i took of her. unfortunately all pics come from my phone and my shaky hands, so quality will always be a little questionable. you got me nervous now, i'm a first year ant keeper and the discord i'm in says this can be a difficult species to keep. i don't want to be offering my 2 queens the wrong workers. i actually considered letting one of them go and follow it around and see where she will take me.
here is a solution: offer one queen formica subsericea workers and the other formica pallidefulva workers. That way, at least one queen has the right host species. Also, i would use callow workers, as they quickly bond with the queen and will feed her.

 

worker size about the same between the two species? and to find those callow workers, should i expect to do some digging to get to them?


Queens owned

     3 Camponotus pennsylvanicus

     3 Formica pallidefulva

 


#10 Offline zA-Z0-9 - Posted August 7 2021 - 10:11 PM

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youre in luck dude i can totally help you i van sell you some but we would have to discuss it here mayberryisaiah223@gmail.com

you’re not in illinois, and even if you aren’t doing it on here you shouldn’t be setting up illegal trades, especially outside DMs.

 

i spoke to this person before through dm here about some Camponotus penns queens. their prices are pretty high, like $60 per queen unless you buy a certain amount to get a discounted price.

 

who?


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#11 Offline Manitobant - Posted August 8 2021 - 6:58 AM

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Formica pallidefulva have quite cryptic nesting habits, which makes things difficult. They don’t build large mounds like fusca group formica. However, if you have lots of formica subsericea or any other fusca group formica in your area, there is a chance that this is a rufescens-breviceps group polyergus species, which target fusca group species and not pallidefulva group species. P. breviceps has lots of records near your area, which makes this more likely.

here are the other pictures i took of her. unfortunately all pics come from my phone and my shaky hands, so quality will always be a little questionable. you got me nervous now, i'm a first year ant keeper and the discord i'm in says this can be a difficult species to keep. i don't want to be offering my 2 queens the wrong workers. i actually considered letting one of them go and follow it around and see where she will take me.
here is a solution: offer one queen formica subsericea workers and the other formica pallidefulva workers. That way, at least one queen has the right host species. Also, i would use callow workers, as they quickly bond with the queen and will feed her.
worker size about the same between the two species? and to find those callow workers, should i expect to do some digging to get to them?
i think pallidefulva is smaller, and you don’t need to do much digging for callows, just take a few scoops of a mound with a small shovel.

#12 Offline olookitsme - Posted August 8 2021 - 9:29 AM

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youre in luck dude i can totally help you i van sell you some but we would have to discuss it here mayberryisaiah223@gmail.com

you’re not in illinois, and even if you aren’t doing it on here you shouldn’t be setting up illegal trades, especially outside DMs.

 

i spoke to this person before through dm here about some Camponotus penns queens. their prices are pretty high, like $60 per queen unless you buy a certain amount to get a discounted price.

 

who?

 

that is my mistake. at about the same time  you liked a bunch of my posts, i was talking to someone about how i want to buy some camponotus penns. I got the names mixed up and i'm sorry for that.


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     3 Formica pallidefulva

 


#13 Offline zA-Z0-9 - Posted August 8 2021 - 10:08 AM

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youre in luck dude i can totally help you i van sell you some but we would have to discuss it here mayberryisaiah223@gmail.com

you’re not in illinois, and even if you aren’t doing it on here you shouldn’t be setting up illegal trades, especially outside DMs.

 

i spoke to this person before through dm here about some Camponotus penns queens. their prices are pretty high, like $60 per queen unless you buy a certain amount to get a discounted price.

 

who?

 

that is my mistake. at about the same time  you liked a bunch of my posts, i was talking to someone about how i want to buy some camponotus penns. I got the names mixed up and i'm sorry for that.

 

its cool


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