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What are the differences between Camponotus ligniperdus and Camponotus herculeanus?


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#1 Offline Ilija Mitrevski - Posted July 27 2017 - 7:47 AM

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What are the differences between Camponotus ligniperdus and Camponotus herculeanus? They look very similar to me and since I have a queen that was IDed as Camponotus ligniperdus I wanted to know. 



#2 Offline CNewton - Posted July 27 2017 - 11:26 AM

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According to AntWiki, C. ligniperda has a shiny gaster and brighter colour as well as being located more southern than C. herculeanus. Being your location says Macedonia, you likely have C. ligniperda.



#3 Offline Jonathan21700 - Posted July 30 2017 - 1:38 PM

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C. ligniperda has a redish first segment of the gaster while C. herculeanus has a mostly dark gaster. 

Also as said above C. herculeanus is more of a northern species and in Southern Europe it is found only at higher altitudes.

 vergleich-ligniperdus-herculeanus_1073_4


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#4 Offline Ilija Mitrevski - Posted July 30 2017 - 1:49 PM

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C. ligniperda has a redish first segment of the gaster while C. herculeanus has a mostly dark gaster. 

Also as said above C. herculeanus is more of a northern species and in Southern Europe it is found only at higher altitudes.

 vergleich-ligniperdus-herculeanus_1073_4

Thanks, this helps a lot. Follow up question: On the picture C. Ligniperda looks larger, is this something that always happens or just in these pictures? 

Thanks.



#5 Offline Jonathan21700 - Posted July 30 2017 - 2:10 PM

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Yes, I noticed that too it seems strange. Usually C. herculeanus is said to be the bigger species. I suppose it's just a smaller than usual sized queen on the picture.






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