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Ant ID (Camponotus ocreatus) (Pinyon Pines, San Jacinto Mountains, CA) (3-10-2014)

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#1 Offline dspdrew - Posted March 11 2014 - 2:03 AM

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1. Location of collection:  Pinyon Pines, San Jacinto Mountains, California.
2. Date of collection:  3-8-2014.
3. Habitat of collection:  Pinyon pine high desert scrub.
4. Length (from head to gaster):  7mm to 13mm (Workers), 13mm (Major), 14mm (Queen).
5. Color, hue, pattern and texture:  Yellow thorax and gaster, orangish-brown head, and very little hair.
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8. Nest description:  Typical looking, flattened mound of dirt about 4 inches in diameter.
 
I thought I might have been digging up a founding chamber, but it turned out to be a mature nest with the queen and all just under the surface. I collected as many workers as I could. One minor worker died so I was able to put it under the microscope, but it was kind of curled up, so the pictures didn't come out very good.
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#2 Offline wook - Posted March 11 2014 - 2:58 AM

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I just woke up, but this might look like Camponotus (Tanaemyrmex) ocreatus by hairs, pigmentation and possibly location.

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#3 Offline dspdrew - Posted March 11 2014 - 5:18 AM

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Yeah, but if that's true, then I doubt the ones I see a lot around the mountains closer to where I live are C. ocreatus like I have always believed. Those are more of a redish-orange with a black head and black front half of the thorax, which looks exactly like a lot of the pictures I find online of C. ocreatus, but I know, sometimes you can have the same species with quite different looking color...



#4 Offline Crystals - Posted March 11 2014 - 5:56 AM

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Nice.  I don't have any light colored Camponotus in my area.

 

Interesting that you found them in the ground.  In my location, almost all Camponotus nest in wood although 2 species like to nest under rocks (but they are only found in extremely rocky areas like the Rocky Mountains).

I wonder why there are no ground dwelling Camponotus in my area....


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#5 Offline dspdrew - Posted March 11 2014 - 7:29 AM

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I don't know, it seems like most of the Camponotus around here are ground nesting species.



#6 Offline Crystals - Posted March 11 2014 - 12:54 PM

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Looking at the shape of the petiole, and taking the coloration somewhat into consideration, I would hazard a guess of either Camponotus semitestaceus or Camponotus sansabaenus


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#7 Offline dspdrew - Posted March 11 2014 - 1:31 PM

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Yeah C. semitestaceus was my first guess, but I think they have just a tad bit too much hair. As for C. sansabaenus, I think they have way too much hair. Even though the C. ocreatus I usually see look much different in color, and are a little larger, I am going to guess that's what these are; the hair looks identical, and there are a few C. ocreatus pictures on AntWeb that have coloring exactly like these.



#8 Offline Trailandstreet - Posted March 12 2014 - 12:09 PM

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A very fascinating coloured ant. Looks like it would be made of glass.



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#9 Offline LAnt - Posted March 12 2014 - 2:06 PM

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Just wondering dspdrew, did you drive to palm desert only to find ants?



#10 Offline Apex - Posted March 12 2014 - 8:26 PM

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beautiful queen!



#11 Offline dspdrew - Posted March 12 2014 - 10:11 PM

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Just wondering dspdrew, did you drive to palm desert only to find ants?

Yup.



#12 Offline dspdrew - Posted March 14 2014 - 3:22 PM

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Well these turned out to be C. semitestaceus according to James C. Trager.







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