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Wyoming ant ID 6/17/2018


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#1 Offline ZllGGY - Posted June 17 2018 - 4:29 PM

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So i got these two queens that i caught and i can't quite confirm the ID myself because when i caught the first one just at quick glance i assumed she was a Camponotus Pennsylvanicus just because they're a super common Camponotus species but then i look closer and they both have a slight red tinge to their legs so now i'm thinking they might be Camponotus Herculeanus but i am stuck on my ID as i just can't really tell so any help would be loved.

 

1. Location of collection: Laramie, WY one was in a park in town the other was on the Snowy Range mountains west of town along the 130 highway

2. Date of collection: one was 2 weeks ago the other was one week ago
3. Habitat of collection: first one i caught in a park in town with lodge pole trees and a small pond, the other had all the trees in the world around it and i got her off of a stump
4. Length: they are both about 14mm's they were hunched over their eggs and larvae so i could get exact

5. Coloration, hue, pattern and texture: Black bodies with red legs,smooth exoskeleton or didn't have any hairs i could see, they are a both a little shiny on their gasters but not dramatically.
6. Distinguishing characteristics: just typical Camponotus features from what i could see
7. Anything else distinctive: really relaxed ants even when i take them out every day to check on them
8. Nest description: none but i assume the second one was looking for a dying tree or stump to nest in

9. Nuptial flight time and date: N/A
10 . Post the clearest pictures possible: http://www.formicult...0180617-175910/they both look exactly the same and i didn't want to stress both with taking pictures. If more pictures are needed just let me know

 

Thanks for any help.


Colonies:

 

Founding:

Camponotus cf. Modoc

Camponotus cf. Herculeanus

 

Dream Ants:

 

Stenamma Diecki

Solenopsis Molesta

Manica Invidia

Camponotus Herculeanus

Lasius Latipes

Dorymyrmex Pyramicus

Tapinoma Sessile


#2 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted June 17 2018 - 5:02 PM

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We'll need more pictures with better lighting. Emphasis on the shininess of gaster.


If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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#3 Offline ZllGGY - Posted June 17 2018 - 5:26 PM

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We'll need more pictures with better lighting. Emphasis on the shininess of gaster.

will do just couldn't find my dang macro lens for my phone but will try to figure something out that will work


Colonies:

 

Founding:

Camponotus cf. Modoc

Camponotus cf. Herculeanus

 

Dream Ants:

 

Stenamma Diecki

Solenopsis Molesta

Manica Invidia

Camponotus Herculeanus

Lasius Latipes

Dorymyrmex Pyramicus

Tapinoma Sessile


#4 Offline AntsBC - Posted June 17 2018 - 6:36 PM

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Looks like Camponotus Modoc but I can't really tell from those photos.


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#5 Offline ZllGGY - Posted June 18 2018 - 4:16 PM

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i can have better pictures Thursday hopefully getting a USB microsope


Colonies:

 

Founding:

Camponotus cf. Modoc

Camponotus cf. Herculeanus

 

Dream Ants:

 

Stenamma Diecki

Solenopsis Molesta

Manica Invidia

Camponotus Herculeanus

Lasius Latipes

Dorymyrmex Pyramicus

Tapinoma Sessile


#6 Offline ZllGGY - Posted June 22 2018 - 3:29 PM

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Hopefully these help lol the microscope wouldn't let me get a clear far away picture

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Colonies:

 

Founding:

Camponotus cf. Modoc

Camponotus cf. Herculeanus

 

Dream Ants:

 

Stenamma Diecki

Solenopsis Molesta

Manica Invidia

Camponotus Herculeanus

Lasius Latipes

Dorymyrmex Pyramicus

Tapinoma Sessile


#7 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted June 22 2018 - 7:00 PM

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I think the other camera was working better. I just want to clearly see the gaster.


If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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#8 Offline ZllGGY - Posted June 23 2018 - 4:21 AM

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I think the other camera was working better. I just want to clearly see the gaster.

Can try to get a clear picture of that today from what I could see she has small hairs on her garter that I couldn't see without the microscope


Colonies:

 

Founding:

Camponotus cf. Modoc

Camponotus cf. Herculeanus

 

Dream Ants:

 

Stenamma Diecki

Solenopsis Molesta

Manica Invidia

Camponotus Herculeanus

Lasius Latipes

Dorymyrmex Pyramicus

Tapinoma Sessile


#9 Offline ZllGGY - Posted June 23 2018 - 6:55 AM

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so after comparing the two species in question C.Modoc C. Herculeanus i believe i have one of each as the first species is more black on her thorax and the second species has the distinct redish thorax when compared up close and side by side. Will also update when they get workers too as the possible C. Herculeanus has pupae that will emerge in about a week or so.


Colonies:

 

Founding:

Camponotus cf. Modoc

Camponotus cf. Herculeanus

 

Dream Ants:

 

Stenamma Diecki

Solenopsis Molesta

Manica Invidia

Camponotus Herculeanus

Lasius Latipes

Dorymyrmex Pyramicus

Tapinoma Sessile





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