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#1 Offline Mortamir - Posted May 14 2018 - 5:38 PM

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1. Location (on a map) of collection: 10 miles east of Ravensdale WA
2. Date of collection: 05/13/2018
3. Habitat of collection: Mature pine forest
4. Length (from head to gaster): 16 mm
5. Color, hue, pattern and texture: Black head and Abdomen. Thorax is dark red
6. Distinguishing characteristics: na
7. Distinguishing behavior: na
8. Nest description: unknown

9. Nuptial flight time and date: 05/13/2018 1800









#2 Offline Ant_Dude2908 - Posted May 14 2018 - 8:29 PM

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This might be Camponotus herculeanus. My one colony of this ant died after hibernation this year....:*(
Lucky! Can you get some clearer pictures of her thorax?

Edited by Ant_Dude2908, May 14 2018 - 8:31 PM.

Keeper of: 3x Formica lasiodies, 5x Formica pacifica, 2x Tetramorium immagrans, 1x Camponotus noveaboricensis, 3x Myrmica sp., 2x Lasius neoniger, 3x Formica argentea, 6x Formica obscuripes (there may be more I am forgetting).

#3 Offline Mortamir - Posted May 14 2018 - 10:04 PM

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How will that help you?

#4 Offline LC3 - Posted May 14 2018 - 10:53 PM

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C. herculeanus queens have the plate plateau looking thing on their mesosoma black, red highlights on the legs and the parts under the plate.

C. novaeboracensis has a completely red thorax, may range from maroon/dark red to light red. They have a distinctive 'X' pattern on the back of their mesosoma. It looks like the entirety of the thorax is red so I'm pretty sure this is C. novaeboracensis.


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#5 Offline Mortamir - Posted May 15 2018 - 12:00 AM

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Ok no problem. I will get it tomorrow.

#6 Offline Ant_Dude2908 - Posted May 15 2018 - 6:45 PM

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I never new C. noveaboricensis flew this early...
Keeper of: 3x Formica lasiodies, 5x Formica pacifica, 2x Tetramorium immagrans, 1x Camponotus noveaboricensis, 3x Myrmica sp., 2x Lasius neoniger, 3x Formica argentea, 6x Formica obscuripes (there may be more I am forgetting).

#7 Offline LC3 - Posted May 15 2018 - 8:55 PM

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This is the time they seem to fly on the west coast, although April and May are usually the time when most Camponotus start flying.

I forgot to mention the size matches C. novaeboracensis. C. herculeanus tend to be a tad smaller I’m pretty sure.
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#8 Offline Ant_Dude2908 - Posted May 16 2018 - 10:31 AM

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Well then, I better start looking for Camponotus queens!


Keeper of: 3x Formica lasiodies, 5x Formica pacifica, 2x Tetramorium immagrans, 1x Camponotus noveaboricensis, 3x Myrmica sp., 2x Lasius neoniger, 3x Formica argentea, 6x Formica obscuripes (there may be more I am forgetting).

#9 Offline Canadian anter - Posted May 16 2018 - 1:40 PM

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Camponotus herculeanus are larger than novaeborecensis. We'd need a better picture from above. Camponotus novaeborecensis seem to be moving west



#10 Offline Ant_Dude2908 - Posted May 16 2018 - 2:05 PM

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Camponotus herculeanus are larger than novaeborecensis. We'd need a better picture from above. Camponotus novaeborecensis seem to be moving west

What do you mean by "moving west"?
Keeper of: 3x Formica lasiodies, 5x Formica pacifica, 2x Tetramorium immagrans, 1x Camponotus noveaboricensis, 3x Myrmica sp., 2x Lasius neoniger, 3x Formica argentea, 6x Formica obscuripes (there may be more I am forgetting).

#11 Offline Canadian anter - Posted May 16 2018 - 2:33 PM

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I'm seeing more and more reports of CAmponotus novaeborecensis in Washington, Oregon, California, etc



#12 Offline LC3 - Posted May 16 2018 - 5:51 PM

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Correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t C. herculeanus around 14-16mm and C. novaeboracensis are 16mm.

I’m not exactly sure if C. novaeboracensis is ‘moving west’, rather more people are finding them or either their population here has increased for whatever reason.

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#13 Offline Canadian anter - Posted May 16 2018 - 6:12 PM

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It's just that I once saw a specimen from Oregon and Batspiderfish said he didn't know they occured so westward.



#14 Offline Mortamir - Posted May 16 2018 - 6:50 PM

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Ok here are a couple of pictures straight down of the thorax and one of the abdomen.





#15 Offline Ant_Dude2908 - Posted May 16 2018 - 7:10 PM

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C. novaeboricensis! My colony has 11 workers now. Good luck!

Edited by Ant_Dude2908, May 16 2018 - 7:12 PM.

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#16 Offline Mortamir - Posted May 16 2018 - 7:19 PM

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Oh I have several colonies of them. I just didn't know it.🤯

#17 Offline Ant_Dude2908 - Posted May 16 2018 - 8:51 PM

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Lol. All but one of my Camponotus spp. died after hibernation.:*(

Edited by Ant_Dude2908, May 16 2018 - 8:52 PM.

Keeper of: 3x Formica lasiodies, 5x Formica pacifica, 2x Tetramorium immagrans, 1x Camponotus noveaboricensis, 3x Myrmica sp., 2x Lasius neoniger, 3x Formica argentea, 6x Formica obscuripes (there may be more I am forgetting).




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