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AntsAreUs's Myrmica spp. Journal


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#1 Offline AntsAreUs - Posted May 10 2018 - 2:07 PM

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Right now I have 2 different species of Myrmica queens, which I will try to ID once they get a good amount of workers. They did not lay their eggs until after I both fed them and put a piece of cardboard over their tubes for darkness.

 

Here is the smaller queen (7 mm) of the 2 species that I caught. She now has 3 eggs.

 

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Edited by AntsAreUs, May 10 2018 - 2:14 PM.

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Ants:    Temnothorax schaumii - Journal

            Temnothorax curvispinosus

            Myrmecina americana - Journal

            Ponera pennsylvanica - Journal

            Formica incerta Journal

            Aphaenogaster tennesseensis - Journal

            Aphaenogaster rudis Journal

            Myrmica spp. Journal

            Camponotus chromaiodes - Journal

            Camponotus pennsylvanicus

            Camponotus subbarbatus - Journal

            Camponotus sp.

            Strumigenys pergandei - Journal (Discontinued)

            Strumigenys pilinasis - Journal

            Hypoponera opacior

            Tetramorium immigrans - Journal

            Tapinoma sessile - Journal

 

Other:  Millipedes

Isopods

Springtails

Earthworms (for making my own soil)

Soil Centipedes (Geophilomorpha sp.)

Stone Centipedes (Lithobius sp.)

Mealworms/Superworms

Indian Mealmoth Culture

Dipluras

Some types of mites


#2 Offline Karma - Posted May 10 2018 - 8:10 PM

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I have tried so hard to get myrmica queens to start a colony and it never works for me, they always die without laying eggs unless they are multiple queens together. I am amazed by this. Can't wait to see how she turns out.


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#3 Offline Bracchymyrmex - Posted May 10 2018 - 8:18 PM

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I have tried so hard to get myrmica queens to start a colony and it never works for me, they always die without laying eggs unless they are multiple queens together. I am amazed by this. Can't wait to see how she turns out.

 

Since Myrmica queens are semi-claustral, they require an outworld to forage and an abundant food supply. I caught two Myrmica queens while they were foraging last year in April, provided them each with a small outworld attached to their test tubes (which I covered with tin foil) and gave them a couple fruit flies about twice a week. Once they had a healthy brood pile I started giving them bigger meals. Now, a year later, one of the colonies has north of 150 workers (maybe 200) while the other is slacking a bit at about 20-30 workers. The bigger colony eats a dubia roach nymph or two every other day, they're just always eating. My best advice is to give the queens a foraging area and an abundant food supply, polygyny is not necessary but it may help.


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#4 Offline Karma - Posted May 10 2018 - 8:26 PM

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I have tried so hard to get myrmica queens to start a colony and it never works for me, they always die without laying eggs unless they are multiple queens together. I am amazed by this. Can't wait to see how she turns out.

 

Since Myrmica queens are semi-claustral, they require an outworld to forage and an abundant food supply. I caught two Myrmica queens while they were foraging last year in April, provided them each with a small outworld attached to their test tubes (which I covered with tin foil) and gave them a couple fruit flies about twice a week. Once they had a healthy brood pile I started giving them bigger meals. Now, a year later, one of the colonies has north of 150 workers (maybe 200) while the other is slacking a bit at about 20-30 workers. The bigger colony eats a dubia roach nymph or two every other day, they're just always eating. My best advice is to give the queens a foraging area and an abundant food supply, polygyny is not necessary but it may help.

 

Hmmm okay. I've definitely heard that providing an outworld is a good thing to do but I've always just offered them food in their test tube instead. I will have to try this next time thanks!!



#5 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted May 11 2018 - 3:00 AM

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Those are some big eggs compared to her size! They're almost 1/4 the size of her gaster.


Edited by Mettcollsuss, May 11 2018 - 3:00 AM.

Colonies:

 

Queens:

  • Camponotus caryaeJournal
  • Camponotus pennsylvanicus Journal
  • Formica subsericea
  • Lasius cf. claviger (Hibernating; No Host Colony)
  • Myrmecina americana  —  Journal
  • Prenolepis imparis x6 —  Journal
  • Tetramorium immigrans x26  —  Journal

 

Other Animals:

  • Felis catus x5
  • Phodopus roborovskii x2
  • Various Fish
  • Younger Brothers x2

#6 Offline AntsAreUs - Posted May 11 2018 - 12:46 PM

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Those are some big eggs compared to her size! They're almost 1/4 the size of her gaster.

Yea, though I'm more amazed by my Ponera pennsylvanica queens. Their eggs are nearly the size of their gaster and one of them has 6 eggs.


Currently keeping:

Ants:    Temnothorax schaumii - Journal

            Temnothorax curvispinosus

            Myrmecina americana - Journal

            Ponera pennsylvanica - Journal

            Formica incerta Journal

            Aphaenogaster tennesseensis - Journal

            Aphaenogaster rudis Journal

            Myrmica spp. Journal

            Camponotus chromaiodes - Journal

            Camponotus pennsylvanicus

            Camponotus subbarbatus - Journal

            Camponotus sp.

            Strumigenys pergandei - Journal (Discontinued)

            Strumigenys pilinasis - Journal

            Hypoponera opacior

            Tetramorium immigrans - Journal

            Tapinoma sessile - Journal

 

Other:  Millipedes

Isopods

Springtails

Earthworms (for making my own soil)

Soil Centipedes (Geophilomorpha sp.)

Stone Centipedes (Lithobius sp.)

Mealworms/Superworms

Indian Mealmoth Culture

Dipluras

Some types of mites


#7 Offline Canadian anter - Posted May 11 2018 - 3:49 PM

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I've noticed that Myrmica actually need very little food. I once had a set of 4 Myrmica rubra queens whom I fed once, and a week later they had almost a hundred eggs


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#8 Offline Karma - Posted May 12 2018 - 10:16 AM

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I've noticed that Myrmica actually need very little food. I once had a set of 4 Myrmica rubra queens whom I fed once, and a week later they had almost a hundred eggs

I have noticed this too however they tend to go through food quickly, in the sense that, like that colony you mentioned, they won't ration or hold onto the food they have. They'll eat the food then use all of the energy from the food on laying eggs almost like they don't have the ability to store the energy in their bodies like fat stores. So they tend to need little food but need to be fed regularly. This is only in my experience though with myrmica incompleta.


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#9 Offline AntsAreUs - Posted May 16 2018 - 5:11 PM

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Here is a pic of the larger queen and her eggs. (9 mm)

 

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Currently keeping:

Ants:    Temnothorax schaumii - Journal

            Temnothorax curvispinosus

            Myrmecina americana - Journal

            Ponera pennsylvanica - Journal

            Formica incerta Journal

            Aphaenogaster tennesseensis - Journal

            Aphaenogaster rudis Journal

            Myrmica spp. Journal

            Camponotus chromaiodes - Journal

            Camponotus pennsylvanicus

            Camponotus subbarbatus - Journal

            Camponotus sp.

            Strumigenys pergandei - Journal (Discontinued)

            Strumigenys pilinasis - Journal

            Hypoponera opacior

            Tetramorium immigrans - Journal

            Tapinoma sessile - Journal

 

Other:  Millipedes

Isopods

Springtails

Earthworms (for making my own soil)

Soil Centipedes (Geophilomorpha sp.)

Stone Centipedes (Lithobius sp.)

Mealworms/Superworms

Indian Mealmoth Culture

Dipluras

Some types of mites


#10 Offline AntsAreUs - Posted June 7 2018 - 11:42 AM

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6/7/18

 

Just a small picture update on the larger queens. They have larva now that is growing by the day.

 

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They like egg yolk it seems.

 

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Edited by AntsAreUs, June 7 2018 - 11:43 AM.

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Currently keeping:

Ants:    Temnothorax schaumii - Journal

            Temnothorax curvispinosus

            Myrmecina americana - Journal

            Ponera pennsylvanica - Journal

            Formica incerta Journal

            Aphaenogaster tennesseensis - Journal

            Aphaenogaster rudis Journal

            Myrmica spp. Journal

            Camponotus chromaiodes - Journal

            Camponotus pennsylvanicus

            Camponotus subbarbatus - Journal

            Camponotus sp.

            Strumigenys pergandei - Journal (Discontinued)

            Strumigenys pilinasis - Journal

            Hypoponera opacior

            Tetramorium immigrans - Journal

            Tapinoma sessile - Journal

 

Other:  Millipedes

Isopods

Springtails

Earthworms (for making my own soil)

Soil Centipedes (Geophilomorpha sp.)

Stone Centipedes (Lithobius sp.)

Mealworms/Superworms

Indian Mealmoth Culture

Dipluras

Some types of mites





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