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I have ants that don't have a social stomach


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#1 Offline 070048285Xd - Posted April 18 2018 - 3:23 PM

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How do you provide surgarwater to ants that lack a social stomach.



#2 Offline 123LordOfAnts123 - Posted April 18 2018 - 4:04 PM

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In most cases, carbohydrates are a relatively minor source of nutrition for ants that don’t engage in trophallaxis. You can provide it as you would for any other ant, but uptake is normally far less in comparison to say, Camponotus or Formica. Insects (and seeds depending on species) constitute the majority of such an ants’ diet. Nutrient distribution occurs in the form of worker laid trophic eggs, larval secretions, and food already within the nest.
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#3 Offline dermy - Posted April 18 2018 - 4:28 PM

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How do you provide surgarwater to ants that lack a social stomach.

Can you tell us the species of ants that you have to determine if they 100% do not have a social stomach?



#4 Offline Serafine - Posted April 18 2018 - 8:24 PM

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Just provide them with things they can use to soak up liquids (little parts of sponge or paper pebbles). Usually they can carry a drop of liquids between their mandibles but they will happily use any materials that can hold additional liquids.


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#5 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted April 18 2018 - 8:32 PM

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Do Myrmica have a social stomach?

#6 Offline AnthonyP163 - Posted April 19 2018 - 3:13 AM

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Aphaenogaster is a genus I know of without a social stomach. Simply provide them with a bit of soil to soak up honey/sugarwater, and they'll bring it back to the nest.


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#7 Offline Canadian anter - Posted April 19 2018 - 4:15 AM

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Aphaenogaster have very tiny social stomachs, but they do have them.


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#8 Offline Jerky93 - Posted April 19 2018 - 5:11 AM

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this is pretty interesting. I wonder what environmental factors would lead a species to evolve social stomachs or not.


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#9 Offline Canadian anter - Posted April 19 2018 - 7:26 AM

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Aphaenogaster might have been overly reliant on myrmecochory. I do know that mine will create piles of sand with liquid in them.


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#10 Offline noebl1 - Posted April 19 2018 - 8:02 AM

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Aphaenogaster might have been overly reliant on myrmecochory. I do know that mine will create piles of sand with liquid in them.

 

I observed when my Aphaenogaster picea colony had the queen and a single nanitic, they would both feed on Sunburst nectar fairly routinely.  After awhile, they also started piling sand/coconut fiber on the nectar soaked cotton ball, and seemed to prefer protein the majority of the time. They don't seem to touch raw honey either. My Fall caught A. rudis haven't eclosed yet, curious if they follow the same pattern.



#11 Offline T.C. - Posted April 19 2018 - 9:31 AM

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Why did you post this in "Forum Support, Feedback & Suggestions?" Moved to General.


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