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Is Transporting Termite Workers Across State Lines Illegal/

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#1 Offline Ant_Dude2908 - Posted April 17 2018 - 8:04 AM

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So, I need to know whether or not this is illegal.

 

Thanks!


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#2 Offline sgheaton - Posted April 17 2018 - 8:21 AM

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I give up.

 

 

Edit:

You know, no, I apologize. Truthfully I don't know and am simply making assumptions. JUST workers... I feel like no matter the situation, if you're having to explain to someone else, they probably aren't going to be too keen on it coming into/across their state. Termites even more so because of the "not my house!" fear.

 

True in technical form but I'd still rule as something you don't do. 


Edited by sgheaton, April 17 2018 - 8:33 AM.

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#3 Offline T.C. - Posted April 17 2018 - 8:38 AM

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Individual  "worker" termites can become reproductive termites  (and I don't know much about termites) so I would imagine you might not. Are they considered "plant pests?"


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#4 Offline drtrmiller - Posted April 17 2018 - 9:03 AM

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Are they considered "plant pests?"

 

I wonder, do termites eat or damage anything made from plants?


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#5 Offline T.C. - Posted April 17 2018 - 9:07 AM

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Are they considered "plant pests?"

 

I wonder, do termites eat or damage anything made from plants?

 

 

 The Species here (and I don't know about elsewhere) live in dead and fallen trees, so they have no impact on live plants.


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#6 Offline drtrmiller - Posted April 17 2018 - 9:09 AM

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Are they considered "plant pests?"

 

I wonder, do termites eat or damage anything made from plants?

 

 

 The Species here live in dead and fallen trees, so they have no impact on plants.

 

 

My house and deck is made of dead, fallen trees.  If they eat my house, will they be a plant pest?


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#7 Offline T.C. - Posted April 17 2018 - 9:14 AM

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Are they considered "plant pests?"

 

I wonder, do termites eat or damage anything made from plants?

 

 

 The Species here live in dead and fallen trees, so they have no impact on plants.

 

 

My deck is made of dead, fallen trees.  If they eat my deck will they be a plant pest?

 

 

Your not even making any sense. A plant pest would be something that has a negative impact on live plants. So to answer your question, they would not be a plant pest. Perhaps the law would see things differently though.



#8 Offline drtrmiller - Posted April 17 2018 - 9:16 AM

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The law doesn't differentiate between living or dead plants.  It mentions plants or plant products.  If the organism damages lumber, leaves, seeds, bark, or any part of any plant, living or dead, raw or in processed form, then it is a plant pest.  That means that, technically, you'd still require a waiver to transport a termite of any caste or life stage from one state to another state.  For some states, a waiver cannot be obtained, which is why you see companies like Termitat, which has obtained such an exemption, unable to ship live termites to some states.


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#9 Offline T.C. - Posted April 17 2018 - 9:26 AM

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The law doesn't say differentiate between live or dead plants.  It mentions plants or plant products.  If the organism damages lumber, leaves, seeds, bark, or any part of any plant, living or dead, raw or in processed form, then it is a plant pest.  That means that, technically, you'd still require a waiver to transport a termite of any caste or life stage.

 

I figured the law would be something like that. Live plants and plant products are very different though. Laws are fun like that.



#10 Offline Hunter - Posted April 17 2018 - 10:03 AM

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you need a permit signed by federal law  to sell and ship termite workers to another person



#11 Offline Ant_Dude2908 - Posted April 17 2018 - 2:19 PM

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you need a permit signed by federal law  to sell and ship termite workers to another person

I mean just bringing them for a feeder. Not shipping them.


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#12 Offline Hunter - Posted April 17 2018 - 2:58 PM

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yea asked my local termite feeder seller he said he needed a permit, but I'm not 100%



#13 Offline Ant_Dude2908 - Posted April 17 2018 - 8:12 PM

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Ok, thanks. May I ask what kind of permit?


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#14 Offline Connectimyrmex - Posted April 17 2018 - 8:58 PM

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Any APHIS permit, but they are EXTREMELY hard to obtain.


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#15 Offline Ant_Dude2908 - Posted May 19 2018 - 12:14 PM

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Are ant workers illegal?


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#16 Offline Canadian anter - Posted May 19 2018 - 12:29 PM

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no. I believe only reproductives are illegal



#17 Offline drtrmiller - Posted May 19 2018 - 12:38 PM

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Are ant workers illegal?

 

 

no. I believe only reproductives are illegal

 

 

US law does not differentiate by caste or life stage!  They are all genetically the same organism! And if the organism is considered a plant pest, then the law prohibits it from being transported across state lines!


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#18 Offline KBant - Posted May 19 2018 - 1:14 PM

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It’s only illegal if you get caught
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#19 Offline gcsnelling - Posted May 19 2018 - 2:35 PM

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In addition there are several termite species which are capable or producing secondary reproductives in the event the primary queen is lost.







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