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Is it legal to take queens on a plane?

Started By YsTheAnt , Feb 25 2018 9:02 AM

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#21 Offline YsTheAnt - Posted February 25 2018 - 6:32 PM

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Yeah, true. Who knows what TSA does with beautiful, shimmering camponotus queens, with their deadly mandibles and ferocious...
You get the point. Thanks for all the input, I'll probably stay away from anting while I'm there.

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#22 Offline drtrmiller - Posted February 25 2018 - 7:00 PM

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remember [the USDA] response says MOVEMENT.


The response you posted states "...movement...across state lines..." is prohibited. The questioner here is talking about a plane flight from one part of his state to another part of the same state. This would be like carrying them in a passenger vehicle. It is 100% allowed.

As far as TSA goes, they shouldn't interfere as long as there's not more than the allowed volume of liquid in a test tube. In fact, if they're in plastic collection vials with no water, they shouldn't even question anything. They're not customs officers. They're only looking for dangerous things.

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#23 Offline nurbs - Posted February 25 2018 - 7:05 PM

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 They're not customs officers. They're only looking for dangerous things.

 

 

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#24 Offline drtrmiller - Posted February 25 2018 - 7:09 PM

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In California at least it is not legal to transport ants across county lines. Transport by air would qualify.


Everyone from California please raise your hand if you've caught or bought ants in a different county than that in which you live, and then transported them home. Looks like everyone raised their hand.

California may have some crazy regulations, but I'd be surprised if this was one of them. Perhaps someone can do the research and find the actual statute or regulation, if it exists?

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#25 Offline StopSpazzing - Posted February 25 2018 - 7:11 PM

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In California at least it is not legal to transport ants across county lines. Transport by air would qualify.


Everyone from California please raise your hand if you've caught or bought ants in a different county than that in which you live, and then transported them home. Looks like everyone raised their hand.

I'd have to see the actual statute before I believed that California was that controlling of their insects.

 

Just cause people get away with it doesn't mean it's legal.  :P


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#26 Offline drtrmiller - Posted February 25 2018 - 7:16 PM

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Just cause people get away with it doesn't mean it's legal.  :P


You can't get away with breaking a law that doesn't exist. I'll wait for someone to cite the law or regulation before believing this one.


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#27 Offline YsTheAnt - Posted February 25 2018 - 7:44 PM

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I'll just pretend it doesn't exist until the FDA comes knocking at my door...
If I do go out and look, and get lucky and catch some I'll at least try to bring them with me lol

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#28 Offline KBant - Posted February 25 2018 - 8:02 PM

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yolo. you do you fam. but do let us know how things play out with your decisions. 


#29 Offline StopSpazzing - Posted February 25 2018 - 8:54 PM

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yolo. you do you fam. but do let us know how things play out with your decisions. 

Agreed, keep us posted.


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#31 Offline Jadeninja9 - Posted February 25 2018 - 9:39 PM

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It's illegal to collect any insect in California so we're already breaking the law haha.


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#34 Offline YsTheAnt - Posted February 25 2018 - 10:17 PM

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LOL hopefully I don't end up like them... I'll let you guys know how it plays out, or if I catch any in the first place :) thanks for all the help

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#35 Offline Jadeninja9 - Posted February 25 2018 - 10:25 PM

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Haha, good luck.


#36 Offline StayLoki - Posted March 1 2018 - 1:58 PM

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Omg I'm dying over here. Whoever made the oitnb meme I love you. Hahahaa. Just wanted to say I wanna move to pa..and ill be taking my ants w me. I hope I can make friends with u guys and no one will rat me out 🐀 cuz I've learned so much from u guys already :)

#37 Offline StayLoki - Posted March 1 2018 - 1:59 PM

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Like literally tho.. If u move, your supposed to rehome ur ant colony?! to someone in the same state? Legally? Lmao

#38 Offline Naturenut1233 - Posted March 1 2018 - 2:21 PM

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Just my two cents. There is an ant black market and TSA agents have busted people for importing foreign queen ants. Transporting queens even within state, may look concerning to said same TSA agents. How are they to know other than by your word that they aren't say Mexican Ants? With that being said, I raise fish, and I was pleasantly surprised to learn you can bring fish as carry on in bags of water. They are exempt from the, what is it, 2 oz fluid rule.

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#39 Offline drtrmiller - Posted March 1 2018 - 2:36 PM

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Just my two cents. There is an ant black market and TSA agents have busted people for importing foreign queen ants. Transporting queens even within state, may look concerning to said same TSA agents.

 

You're absolutely confusing TSA with Customs & Border Protection.  CBP only monitors international flights, not domestic.


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#40 Offline Naturenut1233 - Posted March 1 2018 - 2:51 PM

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I don't fly much anymore and never flown out of the country so yeah your right, although I think they all work together more or less. I still wouldn't risk it. Cept for fish. :D

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