Jump to content

  • Chat
  •  
  •  





Welcome to Formiculture.com!

This is a website for anyone interested in Myrmecology and all aspects of finding, keeping, and studying ants. The site and forum are free to use, and contain no ads for members. Register now to gain access to all of our features. Once registered and logged in, you will be able to create topics, post replies to existing threads, give reputation points to your fellow members, get your own private messenger, post status updates, manage your profile and so much more. If you already have an account, login here - otherwise create an account for free today!

Photo
* * * * * 1 votes

Mettcollsuss's Formica neorufibarbis Journal

journal formica mettcollsuss ant keeping ants colony ant colony formica pallidefulva field ants formica neorufibarbis

  • Please log in to reply
60 replies to this topic

#1 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted February 17 2018 - 4:43 AM

Mettcollsuss

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,219 posts
  • LocationChicago, IL

I caught this queen that I think is Formica incerta last summer. I took her out of hibernation about a week ago, and she had 3 eggs when I last checked up on her. I don't normally start journals for queens until they get to workers, as I explained in my F. subsericea journal. But, this queen is showing several signs of being fertile, so I figured I might as well go ahead and start this journal.

 

Like all Formica queens, she's very paranoid. Unlike most Formica queens, when panicking, she takes some of her brood with her to try and save it. Most Formica queens I've had in the past only try to save themselves.

 

Here are some photos from a couple days ago. While I was taking the photos, she had an egg stuck to the underside of her abdomen.

 

med_gallery_1963_974_33430.jpg

 

med_gallery_1963_974_72780.jpg

 

med_gallery_1963_974_41044.jpg

 

med_gallery_1963_974_55576.jpg

 

med_gallery_1963_974_266896.jpg

 

med_gallery_1963_974_103672.jpg med_gallery_1963_974_94388.jpg

 

 

 


Edited by Mettcollsuss, December 3 2018 - 6:28 AM.

  • rdurham02, FeedTheAnts and irvosanjose like this

#2 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted February 17 2018 - 12:27 PM

Mettcollsuss

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,219 posts
  • LocationChicago, IL

Here's what I know about this species: they are in the pallidefulva group, omnivorous, colonies rarely exceed 3,000 ants, and are fairly rare (at least around here).

 

This queen responds very well to heat. She laid the eggs just a day after I added a heating cable.


Edited by Mettcollsuss, February 17 2018 - 12:29 PM.

  • AntsMaryland likes this

#3 Offline Ant_Dude2908 - Posted February 17 2018 - 12:35 PM

Ant_Dude2908

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,653 posts
  • LocationNashville, Tennessee
That looks a lot like Formica neorufibarbis. I caught a colony last year. I ended up releasing them three days after capture.

Edited by Ant_Dude2908, February 17 2018 - 12:36 PM.

  • Mettcollsuss likes this

My journals:                                             My shop:                                                                        Tennessee Anting Thread:                 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      

                                                                                                                                                                                                                     

                                                                                                                                                                     

                                                                                                                                                                         

Aphaenogaster rudis

 

Aphaenogater tenneseenis                      Ant_Dude2908's Antkeeping Supply Shop                    Tennessee Anting Thread

 

Brachyponera chinesis

 

Camponotus subbarbatus

 

Camponotus chromaiodes

 

Crematogaster ashmeadi

 

 

 

Ants I've found (in TN) : Aphaenogaster rudis, Aphaenogaster tenneseenis, Brahcyponera chinesis, Camponotus subbarbatus, Camponotus chromaiodes, Camponotus pennsylvanicus, Camponotus snellingi, Crematogaster ashmeadi, Crematogaster lineolata, Crematogaster cerasi, all Temnothorax spp., Solenopsis invicta, Solenopsis xyloni, Stigmatomma pallipes, all Strumigenys spp.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


#4 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted February 17 2018 - 1:29 PM

Mettcollsuss

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,219 posts
  • LocationChicago, IL

That looks a lot like Formica neorufibarbis. I caught a colony last year. I ended up releasing them three days after capture.

Hmm. She does look pretty similar to that. I'll start an ID thread.



#5 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted February 17 2018 - 3:48 PM

Mettcollsuss

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,219 posts
  • LocationChicago, IL

2-17-18

Five eggs now.



#6 Offline Ant_Dude2908 - Posted February 20 2018 - 7:35 PM

Ant_Dude2908

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,653 posts
  • LocationNashville, Tennessee
And with my experience with these is they are aggressive and polymorphic.
  • Mettcollsuss likes this

My journals:                                             My shop:                                                                        Tennessee Anting Thread:                 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      

                                                                                                                                                                                                                     

                                                                                                                                                                     

                                                                                                                                                                         

Aphaenogaster rudis

 

Aphaenogater tenneseenis                      Ant_Dude2908's Antkeeping Supply Shop                    Tennessee Anting Thread

 

Brachyponera chinesis

 

Camponotus subbarbatus

 

Camponotus chromaiodes

 

Crematogaster ashmeadi

 

 

 

Ants I've found (in TN) : Aphaenogaster rudis, Aphaenogaster tenneseenis, Brahcyponera chinesis, Camponotus subbarbatus, Camponotus chromaiodes, Camponotus pennsylvanicus, Camponotus snellingi, Crematogaster ashmeadi, Crematogaster lineolata, Crematogaster cerasi, all Temnothorax spp., Solenopsis invicta, Solenopsis xyloni, Stigmatomma pallipes, all Strumigenys spp.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


#7 Offline Ant_Dude2908 - Posted March 1 2018 - 6:17 PM

Ant_Dude2908

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,653 posts
  • LocationNashville, Tennessee
Update?

My journals:                                             My shop:                                                                        Tennessee Anting Thread:                 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      

                                                                                                                                                                                                                     

                                                                                                                                                                     

                                                                                                                                                                         

Aphaenogaster rudis

 

Aphaenogater tenneseenis                      Ant_Dude2908's Antkeeping Supply Shop                    Tennessee Anting Thread

 

Brachyponera chinesis

 

Camponotus subbarbatus

 

Camponotus chromaiodes

 

Crematogaster ashmeadi

 

 

 

Ants I've found (in TN) : Aphaenogaster rudis, Aphaenogaster tenneseenis, Brahcyponera chinesis, Camponotus subbarbatus, Camponotus chromaiodes, Camponotus pennsylvanicus, Camponotus snellingi, Crematogaster ashmeadi, Crematogaster lineolata, Crematogaster cerasi, all Temnothorax spp., Solenopsis invicta, Solenopsis xyloni, Stigmatomma pallipes, all Strumigenys spp.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


#8 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted March 3 2018 - 9:32 AM

Mettcollsuss

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,219 posts
  • LocationChicago, IL

3-3-18

She now has two medium-large larvae and one pupae. I'm starting to think she's actually Formica neorufibarbis. I started an ID thread to be sure.



#9 Offline AnthonyP163 - Posted March 3 2018 - 11:21 PM

AnthonyP163

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 493 posts
  • LocationWaukesha, Wisconsin.

I'm pretty sure that's not Formica neorufibarbis

 

They look like this.

 

pupa.jpg


  • Mettcollsuss likes this

#10 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted March 5 2018 - 4:03 PM

Mettcollsuss

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,219 posts
  • LocationChicago, IL

3-5-18

Now 2 pupae, 1 large larvae, and 3 eggs.



#11 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted March 7 2018 - 2:24 PM

Mettcollsuss

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,219 posts
  • LocationChicago, IL

3-7-18

The pupae now have eyes.



#12 Offline Ant_Dude2908 - Posted March 7 2018 - 7:07 PM

Ant_Dude2908

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,653 posts
  • LocationNashville, Tennessee
I am excited for this colony! Mine failed to lay.:*(

My journals:                                             My shop:                                                                        Tennessee Anting Thread:                 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      

                                                                                                                                                                                                                     

                                                                                                                                                                     

                                                                                                                                                                         

Aphaenogaster rudis

 

Aphaenogater tenneseenis                      Ant_Dude2908's Antkeeping Supply Shop                    Tennessee Anting Thread

 

Brachyponera chinesis

 

Camponotus subbarbatus

 

Camponotus chromaiodes

 

Crematogaster ashmeadi

 

 

 

Ants I've found (in TN) : Aphaenogaster rudis, Aphaenogaster tenneseenis, Brahcyponera chinesis, Camponotus subbarbatus, Camponotus chromaiodes, Camponotus pennsylvanicus, Camponotus snellingi, Crematogaster ashmeadi, Crematogaster lineolata, Crematogaster cerasi, all Temnothorax spp., Solenopsis invicta, Solenopsis xyloni, Stigmatomma pallipes, all Strumigenys spp.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


#13 Offline Ants4fun - Posted March 7 2018 - 8:30 PM

Ants4fun

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 991 posts
  • LocationSouth Dakota
Definitely one of the prettier queens of this genus.

#14 Offline Ant_Dude2908 - Posted March 12 2018 - 7:35 PM

Ant_Dude2908

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,653 posts
  • LocationNashville, Tennessee
Agreed.

My journals:                                             My shop:                                                                        Tennessee Anting Thread:                 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      

                                                                                                                                                                                                                     

                                                                                                                                                                     

                                                                                                                                                                         

Aphaenogaster rudis

 

Aphaenogater tenneseenis                      Ant_Dude2908's Antkeeping Supply Shop                    Tennessee Anting Thread

 

Brachyponera chinesis

 

Camponotus subbarbatus

 

Camponotus chromaiodes

 

Crematogaster ashmeadi

 

 

 

Ants I've found (in TN) : Aphaenogaster rudis, Aphaenogaster tenneseenis, Brahcyponera chinesis, Camponotus subbarbatus, Camponotus chromaiodes, Camponotus pennsylvanicus, Camponotus snellingi, Crematogaster ashmeadi, Crematogaster lineolata, Crematogaster cerasi, all Temnothorax spp., Solenopsis invicta, Solenopsis xyloni, Stigmatomma pallipes, all Strumigenys spp.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


#15 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted March 13 2018 - 5:00 AM

Mettcollsuss

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,219 posts
  • LocationChicago, IL

3-13-18

One of the pupae is getting darker. Nanitics shouldn't be too far away.


  • Jadeninja9 likes this

#16 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted March 16 2018 - 5:55 PM

Mettcollsuss

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,219 posts
  • LocationChicago, IL

3-16-18

A worker finally eclosed! Its exoskeleton is still hardening and pale, but it's up and about. She doesn't seem interested in food right now. She's surprisingly small compared to the queen. I'll get photos soon.


  • irvosanjose likes this

#17 Offline Jadeninja9 - Posted March 16 2018 - 10:30 PM

Jadeninja9

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 510 posts
  • LocationSan Francisco Bay Area, CA
I’m exited for the pics
  • Mettcollsuss likes this

Keeper of:

x1 Camponotus hyatti 

x1 Lasius alienus

x9 Prenolepis imparis

 

 


#18 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted March 17 2018 - 3:11 AM

Mettcollsuss

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,219 posts
  • LocationChicago, IL

I'm going to use the worker to help with the ID, but I'm going to wait a little bit longer since her color hasn't come in completely yet. But from what I can tell, she looks lighter in color than the F. neorufibarbis in the photos above.



#19 Offline Ant_Dude2908 - Posted March 17 2018 - 12:25 PM

Ant_Dude2908

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,653 posts
  • LocationNashville, Tennessee
Nice job!
  • Mettcollsuss likes this

My journals:                                             My shop:                                                                        Tennessee Anting Thread:                 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      

                                                                                                                                                                                                                     

                                                                                                                                                                     

                                                                                                                                                                         

Aphaenogaster rudis

 

Aphaenogater tenneseenis                      Ant_Dude2908's Antkeeping Supply Shop                    Tennessee Anting Thread

 

Brachyponera chinesis

 

Camponotus subbarbatus

 

Camponotus chromaiodes

 

Crematogaster ashmeadi

 

 

 

Ants I've found (in TN) : Aphaenogaster rudis, Aphaenogaster tenneseenis, Brahcyponera chinesis, Camponotus subbarbatus, Camponotus chromaiodes, Camponotus pennsylvanicus, Camponotus snellingi, Crematogaster ashmeadi, Crematogaster lineolata, Crematogaster cerasi, all Temnothorax spp., Solenopsis invicta, Solenopsis xyloni, Stigmatomma pallipes, all Strumigenys spp.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


#20 Offline Ant_Dude2908 - Posted March 31 2018 - 8:55 AM

Ant_Dude2908

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1,653 posts
  • LocationNashville, Tennessee

Pics?


My journals:                                             My shop:                                                                        Tennessee Anting Thread:                 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      

                                                                                                                                                                                                                     

                                                                                                                                                                     

                                                                                                                                                                         

Aphaenogaster rudis

 

Aphaenogater tenneseenis                      Ant_Dude2908's Antkeeping Supply Shop                    Tennessee Anting Thread

 

Brachyponera chinesis

 

Camponotus subbarbatus

 

Camponotus chromaiodes

 

Crematogaster ashmeadi

 

 

 

Ants I've found (in TN) : Aphaenogaster rudis, Aphaenogaster tenneseenis, Brahcyponera chinesis, Camponotus subbarbatus, Camponotus chromaiodes, Camponotus pennsylvanicus, Camponotus snellingi, Crematogaster ashmeadi, Crematogaster lineolata, Crematogaster cerasi, all Temnothorax spp., Solenopsis invicta, Solenopsis xyloni, Stigmatomma pallipes, all Strumigenys spp.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 






Also tagged with one or more of these keywords: journal, formica, mettcollsuss, ant keeping, ants, colony, ant colony, formica pallidefulva, field ants, formica neorufibarbis

0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users