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Camponotus indigestion?


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#1 Offline MegaMyrmex - Posted February 11 2018 - 8:35 PM

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So my C. Chromaoides colony has about 6 workers now but its down to 5 because one of the ants, the replete, died suddenly. It had gorged itself with honey and water so much that it became sluggish and and couldn't really move. I checked on them recently and, well, it seems like its dead. Its mouthparts are sticking out and its legs are splayed out. I don't know the ant's age since I caught this founding colony during winter. What could have killed this ant? It is barely moving but I did notice that its gaster was a bit pointier than usual, like a bee or wasp. However, if it was formic acid spraying, then the entire colony would have to suffer. Does anybody know what could have happened? Thanks!

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Current colonies-

 

- 2 Camponotus chromaoides

- 1 Aphaenogaster sp. colony

- 1 Crematogaster colony

- 1 Strumigenys colony :yahoo:  :dance:  :dance2: 

 

Species checklist(ants found so far)-

- Aphaenogaster teneseensis

- Aphaenogaster picea

- Aphaenogaster sp.

- Brachymyrmex patagonicus

- Camponotus castaneus

- Camponotus chromaoides

- Camponotus nearcticus

- Camponotus pennsylvanicus

- Camponotus subbarbatus

- Colobopsis impressus(dead queen... :*(

- Crematogaster sp.

- Formica pallidefulva

- Formica sanguinea

- Formica subsericea

- Hypoponera sp.

- Lasius claviger

- Lasius umbratus

- Lasius neoniger

- Lasius sp.

- Monomorium minimum

- Myrmica sp.

- Nylanderia flavipes

- Pheidole morrisi

- Pheidole bicarinata

- Pheidole dentata(all pheidole found were workers only :( )

- Ponera pennsylvanica

- Prenolepis imparis

- Strumigenys rostrata

​- Stigmatomma pallipes :dance2:  :dance:

- Tetramorium immigrans

- Tapinoma sessile

 

Queens/colonies to Look for-

- Pheidole

- Trachymyrmex septentrionalis

- Polyergus

- Dolichoderus

- Myrmica

- Stigmatomma pallipes


#2 Offline nurbs - Posted February 11 2018 - 9:09 PM

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So my C. Chromaoides colony has about 6 workers now but its down to 1 because one of the ants, the replete, died suddenly. It had gorged itself with honey and water so much that it became sluggish and and couldn't really move. I checked on them recently and, well, it seems like its dead. Its mouthparts are sticking out and its legs are splayed out. I don't know the ant's age since I caught this founding colony during winter. What could have killed this ant? It is barely moving but I did notice that its gaster was a bit pointier than usual, like a bee or wasp. However, if it was formic acid spraying, then the entire colony would have to suffer. Does anybody know what could have happened? Thanks!

 

Need clarification. This is C. chromaiodes with a replete? It had 6 workers but now it is down to 1 because one of the ants turned itself into a replete and killed the other 5 because of indigestion? Or did it eat the other 5 and had indigestion? Sorry just trying to wrap my head around what you're saying. If someone else understands please explain!

 

Doubt that a replete can kill the other ants, so not sure what the issue is. Can you post pics?



#3 Offline Jadeninja9 - Posted February 11 2018 - 9:57 PM

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Need clarification. This is C. chromaiodes with a replete? It had 6 workers but now it is down to 1 because one of the ants turned itself into a replete and killed the other 5 because of indigestion? Or did it eat the other 5 and had indigestion? Sorry just trying to wrap my head around what you're saying. If someone else understands please explain!

 

Doubt that a replete can kill the other ants, so not sure what the issue is. Can you post pics?

 

5 ants is a large meal


Keeper of:

x1 Camponotus hyatti colony

x7 Lasius alienus

 

Founding:

x1 Prenolepis imparis

x1 Tetramorium immigrans

x1Campontus cf. clarithorax


#4 Offline AntsMaryland - Posted February 12 2018 - 3:12 AM

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They probably died of stress because they're a wild caught colony.



#5 Offline MegaMyrmex - Posted February 12 2018 - 4:40 AM

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Haha sorry everyone, I meant that they had 6 workers but went down to one. The worker that died was acting like a replete because it was the only one that was filled with food. I don't know where my explanation came from but sorry for the confusionπŸ˜…πŸ˜…πŸ˜… The colony was collected last year during winter, so stress may not have been the complete contributing factor but I did have to move them out of their old nest in order to clean it from mold, so stress may have caused it. Also, one possible factor was overheating- I always keep them on a heating mat of some sort but since I kept them in a plaster nest, the heat was being evenly distributed. However, the formicarium broke so I moved them into a glass test tube setup, which I placed for a while directly on top of the heat mat. However, that would mean that the rest of my colonies would be dead, along with my acrobat ant quee s since they keep their brood directly on top of the heat mat. Once again I severely apologize about any confusion caused, and I hope this clarifies it.

Current colonies-

 

- 2 Camponotus chromaoides

- 1 Aphaenogaster sp. colony

- 1 Crematogaster colony

- 1 Strumigenys colony :yahoo:  :dance:  :dance2: 

 

Species checklist(ants found so far)-

- Aphaenogaster teneseensis

- Aphaenogaster picea

- Aphaenogaster sp.

- Brachymyrmex patagonicus

- Camponotus castaneus

- Camponotus chromaoides

- Camponotus nearcticus

- Camponotus pennsylvanicus

- Camponotus subbarbatus

- Colobopsis impressus(dead queen... :*(

- Crematogaster sp.

- Formica pallidefulva

- Formica sanguinea

- Formica subsericea

- Hypoponera sp.

- Lasius claviger

- Lasius umbratus

- Lasius neoniger

- Lasius sp.

- Monomorium minimum

- Myrmica sp.

- Nylanderia flavipes

- Pheidole morrisi

- Pheidole bicarinata

- Pheidole dentata(all pheidole found were workers only :( )

- Ponera pennsylvanica

- Prenolepis imparis

- Strumigenys rostrata

​- Stigmatomma pallipes :dance2:  :dance:

- Tetramorium immigrans

- Tapinoma sessile

 

Queens/colonies to Look for-

- Pheidole

- Trachymyrmex septentrionalis

- Polyergus

- Dolichoderus

- Myrmica

- Stigmatomma pallipes


#6 Offline AntsMaryland - Posted February 12 2018 - 7:32 AM

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It could have been disease, Sometimes wild caught colonies get diseases and like humans, those diseases can stay with the ant without showing severe symptoms until someday, POW! I doubt heat was an issue. If it was they would have just fried. The stress from the move might have just made them more vulnerable to a virus they already had. Another, but acute possibility, are mites. Check the remaining ants and dead worker for them. It's a possibility but I doubt that's what caused it.



#7 Offline MegaMyrmex - Posted February 12 2018 - 9:50 AM

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The mite theory might be right, I saw a sort of pale white disc attached to one of the workers. I'll have to check on them but thanks for the suggestions!

Current colonies-

 

- 2 Camponotus chromaoides

- 1 Aphaenogaster sp. colony

- 1 Crematogaster colony

- 1 Strumigenys colony :yahoo:  :dance:  :dance2: 

 

Species checklist(ants found so far)-

- Aphaenogaster teneseensis

- Aphaenogaster picea

- Aphaenogaster sp.

- Brachymyrmex patagonicus

- Camponotus castaneus

- Camponotus chromaoides

- Camponotus nearcticus

- Camponotus pennsylvanicus

- Camponotus subbarbatus

- Colobopsis impressus(dead queen... :*(

- Crematogaster sp.

- Formica pallidefulva

- Formica sanguinea

- Formica subsericea

- Hypoponera sp.

- Lasius claviger

- Lasius umbratus

- Lasius neoniger

- Lasius sp.

- Monomorium minimum

- Myrmica sp.

- Nylanderia flavipes

- Pheidole morrisi

- Pheidole bicarinata

- Pheidole dentata(all pheidole found were workers only :( )

- Ponera pennsylvanica

- Prenolepis imparis

- Strumigenys rostrata

​- Stigmatomma pallipes :dance2:  :dance:

- Tetramorium immigrans

- Tapinoma sessile

 

Queens/colonies to Look for-

- Pheidole

- Trachymyrmex septentrionalis

- Polyergus

- Dolichoderus

- Myrmica

- Stigmatomma pallipes


#8 Offline Ants_Texas - Posted February 12 2018 - 3:28 PM

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Not trying to be rude, but it seems that every single one of your colonies has multiple problems. Do you have an idea as to why?


My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK90shiLguOZBECXtwr1M7A

 

My Colony Adoption: http://www.formicult.../?hl=ants_texas

 

Colonies:

Atta texana 

Brachymyrmex patagonicus

Camponotus pennsylvanicus

Camponotus discolor 

Crematogaster laeviuscula 

Crematogaster sp. x2

Pheidole navigans

Pseudomyrmex gracilis x2

Pseudomyrmex pallidus

Solenopsis invicta 

 

Wishlist:

Camponotus castaneus

Camponotus chromaiodes

Camponotus sansabeanus

Camponotus vicinus

Myrmecocystus sp.

Novomessor sp.

Odontomachus sp.

Pogonomyrmex sp.

 

 

 

 

 

 


#9 Offline MegaMyrmex - Posted February 12 2018 - 5:26 PM

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Not trying to be rude, but it seems that every single one of your colonies has multiple problems. Do you have an idea as to why?

No, no, it's perfectly fine, I myself am asking that question actually. I guess I'm more used to faster- growing and hardier species like formica and tetramorium. Also, this is currently my only camponotus colony so far and I have never successfully raised a colony past 1 worker so I'm pretty anxiois about this colony.

Current colonies-

 

- 2 Camponotus chromaoides

- 1 Aphaenogaster sp. colony

- 1 Crematogaster colony

- 1 Strumigenys colony :yahoo:  :dance:  :dance2: 

 

Species checklist(ants found so far)-

- Aphaenogaster teneseensis

- Aphaenogaster picea

- Aphaenogaster sp.

- Brachymyrmex patagonicus

- Camponotus castaneus

- Camponotus chromaoides

- Camponotus nearcticus

- Camponotus pennsylvanicus

- Camponotus subbarbatus

- Colobopsis impressus(dead queen... :*(

- Crematogaster sp.

- Formica pallidefulva

- Formica sanguinea

- Formica subsericea

- Hypoponera sp.

- Lasius claviger

- Lasius umbratus

- Lasius neoniger

- Lasius sp.

- Monomorium minimum

- Myrmica sp.

- Nylanderia flavipes

- Pheidole morrisi

- Pheidole bicarinata

- Pheidole dentata(all pheidole found were workers only :( )

- Ponera pennsylvanica

- Prenolepis imparis

- Strumigenys rostrata

​- Stigmatomma pallipes :dance2:  :dance:

- Tetramorium immigrans

- Tapinoma sessile

 

Queens/colonies to Look for-

- Pheidole

- Trachymyrmex septentrionalis

- Polyergus

- Dolichoderus

- Myrmica

- Stigmatomma pallipes


#10 Offline Ants_Texas - Posted February 12 2018 - 6:12 PM

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Not trying to be rude, but it seems that every single one of your colonies has multiple problems. Do you have an idea as to why?

No, no, it's perfectly fine, I myself am asking that question actually. I guess I'm more used to faster- growing and hardier species like formica and tetramorium. Also, this is currently my only camponotus colony so far and I have never successfully raised a colony past 1 worker so I'm pretty anxiois about this colony.

 

Just remember to be calm and patient. 


My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK90shiLguOZBECXtwr1M7A

 

My Colony Adoption: http://www.formicult.../?hl=ants_texas

 

Colonies:

Atta texana 

Brachymyrmex patagonicus

Camponotus pennsylvanicus

Camponotus discolor 

Crematogaster laeviuscula 

Crematogaster sp. x2

Pheidole navigans

Pseudomyrmex gracilis x2

Pseudomyrmex pallidus

Solenopsis invicta 

 

Wishlist:

Camponotus castaneus

Camponotus chromaiodes

Camponotus sansabeanus

Camponotus vicinus

Myrmecocystus sp.

Novomessor sp.

Odontomachus sp.

Pogonomyrmex sp.

 

 

 

 

 

 





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