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recipes for ant nectar


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#1 Offline Diesel - Posted November 14 2017 - 7:10 AM

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Hi Guys,

 

looking to see what ppl are using for recipes for ant nectar? i have found most of my ants will consume honey water but could care less about my sugar water mixture. i also have a fussy Aphaenogaster colony that regularly refuses any sugar. protein, protein, protein. :) i guess having no social stomach there is no need  for a sugar diet. i dunno. but any recipes would greatly be appreciated.

 

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aphaenogaster picea

temnothorax sp

tetramorium sp.


Edited by Diesel, November 14 2017 - 7:11 AM.

Ant Species kept

 

Camponotus Noveboracensis (formerly)

Tertramorium sp.

Temnothorax sp.

Aphaenogaster Picea


#2 Offline Hunter - Posted November 14 2017 - 7:34 AM

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you that despret :lol:



#3 Offline Bugdaddy - Posted November 14 2017 - 7:38 AM

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Have you tried hummingbird nectar? 


"And it was to my infinite despair and pain... That it was not the hornets that made honey."


#4 Offline Hunter - Posted November 14 2017 - 7:46 AM

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Have you tried hummingbird nectar? 

to high in sugar content for apeano



#5 Offline Diesel - Posted November 14 2017 - 8:02 AM

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even if my aphaenogaster won't eat it i will still make some once i can find a decent recipe i like that isn't overly complicated. i can still use it for the other colonies.


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Tertramorium sp.

Temnothorax sp.

Aphaenogaster Picea


#6 Offline Bugdaddy - Posted November 14 2017 - 8:11 AM

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Have you tried hummingbird nectar? 

to high in sugar content for apeano

 

 Why not dilute it?


"And it was to my infinite despair and pain... That it was not the hornets that made honey."


#7 Offline Diesel - Posted November 14 2017 - 8:22 AM

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i don't want to buy it. store bought varieties often have other elements that may or may not harm my ants. if something happens to them then i will only have myself to blame. not to mention I'm too cheap to buy something i can easily make on my own.


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Camponotus Noveboracensis (formerly)

Tertramorium sp.

Temnothorax sp.

Aphaenogaster Picea


#8 Offline Bugdaddy - Posted November 14 2017 - 8:47 AM

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i don't want to buy it. store bought varieties often have other elements that may or may not harm my ants. if something happens to them then i will only have myself to blame. not to mention I'm too cheap to buy something i can easily make on my own.

Fair point, I didn't think of that.


"And it was to my infinite despair and pain... That it was not the hornets that made honey."


#9 Offline Hunter - Posted November 14 2017 - 8:52 AM

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Have you tried hummingbird nectar? 

to high in sugar content for apeano

 

 Why not dilute it?

 

yea you could try but it might still be



#10 Offline Connectimyrmex - Posted November 14 2017 - 11:46 AM

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Clear hummingbird nectar + cricket fat + water = good ant food. My formula works with A. rudis.


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#11 Offline ultraex2 - Posted November 14 2017 - 1:46 PM

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I've found that my Aphaenogaster love apples for sugar - I've tried honey, solid sugars, etc. and they don't really like them.



#12 Offline Hunter - Posted November 14 2017 - 2:14 PM

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apples is good but the acid and nitraites is not good for smaller ants



#13 Offline Connectimyrmex - Posted November 14 2017 - 7:35 PM

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My A. rudis & picea colony loves

1. My ant food recipe

2. Cricket leg with honey

3. Peach juice

4. Most fruit


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#14 Offline ctantkeeper - Posted November 14 2017 - 8:14 PM

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Hi Guys,

 

looking to see what ppl are using for recipes for ant nectar? i have found most of my ants will consume honey water but could care less about my sugar water mixture. i also have a fussy Aphaenogaster colony that regularly refuses any sugar. protein, protein, protein. :) i guess having no social stomach there is no need  for a sugar diet. i dunno. but any recipes would greatly be appreciated.

 

currently keeping

 

aphaenogaster picea

temnothorax sp

tetramorium sp.

Woah, hold on there. Although Apeanogaster workers are incapable of trophylaxis, they (like most if not all captivity reared ant species) need carbohydrates. the protein rich food sources aid in brood development, while carbohydrates aid in keeping adult productivity up. Finding a balance between both is extremely important. Only offering your ants protein food sources can lead to protein toxicity, which is often fatal. I would recommend trying a wide range of different carbohydrate rich food items.


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#15 Offline drtrmiller - Posted November 14 2017 - 9:08 PM

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The Aphaenogaster species I had loved Sunburst Ant Nectar.  Unfortunately, it's out of stock until January, 2018.


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#16 Offline nurbs - Posted November 14 2017 - 10:18 PM

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I make this for buyers who ask for it. Most ants love it except harvester and seed foraging species like Pogonomyrmex, Veromessors, and Novomessors. For those, small sliced apple bits work great.

 

Ingredients:

1 part hummingbird nectar

1 part pure organic honey

2 parts bottled water

Pinch of sea salt

 

 

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#17 Offline Diesel - Posted November 15 2017 - 5:57 AM

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thanks guys. i appreciate it. i will be giving them seeds as well ctantkeeper. just trying to find the correct variety of soft seed they can chew.


Ant Species kept

 

Camponotus Noveboracensis (formerly)

Tertramorium sp.

Temnothorax sp.

Aphaenogaster Picea


#18 Offline Hunter - Posted November 15 2017 - 6:44 AM

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i use 1ml of grape concentrate, 2 cricket body's, 1 mealworm, 1ml water, 1/4 o apple or 1in of banana, 1/2ml beat-juice. mix and blend all in a juicer or blender



#19 Offline Hunter - Posted November 15 2017 - 8:07 AM

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everything but my camponotus like it






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