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#1 Offline Hunter - Posted October 16 2017 - 11:15 AM

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1 Cm dark brown found 10/15/17 dirt road North ME
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#2 Offline Nathant2131 - Posted October 16 2017 - 11:42 AM

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Picture isn't great, but it appears to be a parasitic Lasius queen.



#3 Offline Hunter - Posted October 16 2017 - 11:43 AM

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i don't think so it was under a rock and had a chamber



#4 Offline Nathant2131 - Posted October 16 2017 - 11:45 AM

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i don't think so it was under a rock and had a chamber

This species usually burrows and waits until Spring to invade a colony. Typical behaviour.


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#5 Offline Hunter - Posted October 16 2017 - 11:56 AM

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#6 Offline Hunter - Posted October 16 2017 - 11:58 AM

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do you know what spices they invade



#7 Offline Nathant2131 - Posted October 16 2017 - 12:02 PM

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do you know what spices they invade

It's not very well documented, but Lasius alienus or Lasius neoniger will probably work. (they are very common species)

 

Note that Lasius claviger is among some of the most difficult Lasius parasites to rise. I don't think anyone has ever kept a long-term colony.


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#8 Offline Connectimyrmex - Posted October 16 2017 - 4:47 PM

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She's Lasius claviger judging from the body shape.


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#9 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted October 17 2017 - 3:22 AM

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If it's orangish she's in the claviger group, versus if she's brownish she'e in the umbratus group. Also, claviger group queens have more elongated abdomens.

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#10 Offline Connectimyrmex - Posted October 17 2017 - 6:30 AM

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Umbratus nodes are barely visible, but claviger nodes are kind of stretched out.

 

Claviger can be very dark, and umbratus can be nearly orange.


Edited by Connectimyrmex, October 17 2017 - 6:30 AM.

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Anoplolepis Gracilipes
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Pheidole Megacephala
Aholehole fish
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#11 Offline T.C. - Posted October 17 2017 - 7:09 AM

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I would agree with Nathant. Parasitic Lasius queen of some sort, and he is very correct when he said, "This species usually burrows and waits until Spring to invade a colony. Typical behaviour." I have noticed this in Lasius umbratus on numerous occasions. During winter I can actually go out in the snow, and if I can get to them (which I usually can't because of the snow depth) flip rocks and find them just sitting under there waiting out the winter. If you think about it, who knows how long it is until they eat again. :thinking:

 

Also, you'll get the help from the pro's if you fill out a proper ID thread, because they can't give you a accurate ID off this. You also are gonna want to go easy on rule 7. ;)

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#12 Offline Nathant2131 - Posted October 17 2017 - 9:57 AM

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Umbratus nodes are barely visible, but claviger nodes are kind of stretched out.
 
Claviger can be very dark, and umbratus can be nearly orange.


Lasius subumbratus (part of the umbratus group) are also usually orange as well.

#13 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted October 17 2017 - 1:28 PM

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Looks like Lasius latipes to me, but I honestly can't see the ant at all with that tiny thumbnail.


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