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Queen Ant ID (Pogonomyrmex maricopa) (Blythe, California) (9-17-2017)

pogonomyrmex ant id dspdrew blythe california

Best Answer gcsnelling , September 18 2017 - 3:11 PM

Yes, P. maricopa.

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#1 Offline dspdrew - Posted September 17 2017 - 6:07 PM

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1. Location of collection:  Blythe, California
2. Date of collection:  9-12-2017
3. Habitat of collection:  Desert riparian
4. Length (from head to gaster):  9-10 mm
5. Color, hue, pattern and texture:  All red with white hairs and a slightly lighter gaster
6. Distinguishing characteristics: No spines, interuggal punctures on head
7. Anything else distinctive: Moves in a wasp like motion typical of P. californicus (desert bicolor variety)
8. Nest description: 

 

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P. californicus head

 

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This species' head

 

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P. californicus thorax

 

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This species' thorax

 

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#2 Offline T.C. - Posted September 17 2017 - 6:09 PM

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Oh,wow. A second ID request? You losing your anting touch?

#3 Offline dspdrew - Posted September 17 2017 - 6:09 PM

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I think this is might be Pogonomyrmex maricopa. They looked and acted exactly the same as the desert bicolor variety of Pogonomyrmex californicus, except they are all red, slightly larger, and obviously fly very late in the summer as opposed to Spring time.



#4 Offline dspdrew - Posted September 17 2017 - 6:11 PM

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Oh,wow. A second ID request? You losing your anting touch?

 

Haha no I just finally came across something new. I can usually ID them fairly well, but just want some confirmation. I also like making these for informational purposes.



#5 Offline dspdrew - Posted September 17 2017 - 7:50 PM

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You can't see it very well in the pictures, but the interrugal spaces of the head are very punctate, looking like the surface of an orange, while the spaces of the P. californicus specimen of mine are clearly smooth and shiny. I actually noticed this on the thorax too even before I read about that difference on the heads of P. californicus and P. maricopa.

 

P. californicus head

 

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This species' head

 

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P. californicus thorax

 

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This species' thorax

 

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#6 Offline Kujawaorchids - Posted September 17 2017 - 8:24 PM

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Sorry cannot help with ID, but had to mention those are great pictures!


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#7 Offline dspdrew - Posted September 17 2017 - 9:27 PM

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Sorry cannot help with ID, but had to mention those are great pictures!

 

Thanks.



#8 Offline Zeiss - Posted September 17 2017 - 9:35 PM

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I'm going to agree that it is Pogonomyrmex maricopa.  



#9 Offline gcsnelling - Posted September 18 2017 - 3:11 PM   Best Answer

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Yes, P. maricopa.



#10 Offline hendicott - Posted September 20 2017 - 9:37 AM

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Agreed. Nice pics.

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#11 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted November 2 2018 - 4:22 PM

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Are you aware that it can kill you?



#12 Offline Dukagora - Posted November 2 2018 - 7:17 PM

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Are you suggesting the sting from one would be lethal? If so I would have to disagree. Were it true I would be a survivor I guess. We had a nephew about 3 fall onto a hill of a Pogonomyrmex species here and while he certainly had to go to the ER, that was a result of numerous stings. Despite that, he is a perfectly healthy 15 year old now....that's over 100 stings counted by ER staff. He did need an ephineferin shot....but I imagine most of us would with that many stings....

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#13 Offline Dukagora - Posted November 2 2018 - 7:26 PM

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#14 Offline dspdrew - Posted November 2 2018 - 10:00 PM

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Are you aware that it can kill you?

 

Kill who exactly? Peanuts can kill you too... If you're allergic to them.



#15 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted November 3 2018 - 1:41 PM

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Are you suggesting the sting from one would be lethal? If so I would have to disagree. Were it true I would be a survivor I guess. We had a nephew about 3 fall onto a hill of a Pogonomyrmex species here and while he certainly had to go to the ER, that was a result of numerous stings. Despite that, he is a perfectly healthy 15 year old now....that's over 100 stings counted by ER staff. He did need an ephineferin shot....but I imagine most of us would with that many stings....

The Maricopa harvester ant has the most venomous insect venom. 100 stings can kill you, VERY FAST.



#16 Offline gcsnelling - Posted November 3 2018 - 3:18 PM

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Yah, not so much and venom toxicity varies depending on where you find them.



#17 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted November 3 2018 - 5:09 PM

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Literally every source says they can so I would research before saying something (which I did)



#18 Offline gcsnelling - Posted November 3 2018 - 6:48 PM

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Really, you are saying I should research before posting?


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#19 Offline dspdrew - Posted November 3 2018 - 8:01 PM

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Really, you are saying I should research before posting?

 

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#20 Offline nurbs - Posted November 3 2018 - 8:05 PM

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Once got stung on the nipples. It was just one sting, but the pain was beyond human comprehension. Thankfully still alive to tell it.


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