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HELP! CAUGHT ANERGATES, NOW WHAT?


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#1 Offline MegaMyrmex - Posted August 28 2017 - 9:55 AM

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Exactly what the title says. What do I do????
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#2 Offline AntsMaryland - Posted August 28 2017 - 9:59 AM

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We have Anergates in Maryland?


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wait, so you mean you caught Tetramorium?



#3 Offline Reacker - Posted August 28 2017 - 10:04 AM

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Eat it to gain its power.


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#4 Offline AntsMaryland - Posted August 28 2017 - 10:11 AM

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Eat it to gain it's power.

Wouldn't that hurt? :)



#5 Offline sgheaton - Posted August 28 2017 - 10:33 AM

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Eat it to gain it's power.

Wouldn't that hurt? :)

 

Clearly you need to eat more for more power. 


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#6 Offline AntsMaryland - Posted August 28 2017 - 10:52 AM

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Eat it to gain it's power.

Wouldn't that hurt? :)

 

Clearly you need to eat more for more power. 

 

Maybe if I start eating fire ants I'll be able to breathe fire...!? :P



#7 Offline Nathant2131 - Posted August 28 2017 - 11:30 AM

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Anergates atratulus was renamed Tetramorium atratulum.

#8 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted August 28 2017 - 11:40 AM

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They are inquiline social parasites of queenless Tetramorium colonies. I don't have much experience introducing them, but try to use workers from inside a nest. You can also sweep up or use an aspirator on workers from a Tetramorium war, but I don't know if this will affect the outcome of the queen.


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If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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#9 Offline LC3 - Posted August 28 2017 - 12:45 PM

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Wait don't parasitize colonies with queens since their curled gaster is used to cup onto the host queen's gaster and they just spend their lifetime clinging onto the host queen?


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#10 Offline MegaMyrmex - Posted August 28 2017 - 5:07 PM

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Wait don't parasitize colonies with queens since their curled gaster is used to cup onto the host queen's gaster and they just spend their lifetime clinging onto the host queen?

That's teleutomyrmex.

We have Anergates in Maryland?
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wait, so you mean you caught Tetramorium?

Yeah they used to be called anergates but now they are simply regarded as Tetramorium atratulum. I introduced a male to one of my founding colonies by accident instead of a queen. I also saw a male and a worker mating so hopefully I'll have some more queen. Also, I saw one of the males mating with a queen pupa.
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#11 Offline MegaMyrmex - Posted August 28 2017 - 5:10 PM

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I should also point out that there is a colony of these ants and their host in my backyard.
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#12 Offline AntsMaryland - Posted August 28 2017 - 5:15 PM

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That's so cool



#13 Offline MegaMyrmex - Posted August 28 2017 - 5:30 PM

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I can collect some more and try some more experiments, and I found an inseminated queen trying to fly out of the container that they're in.
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#14 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted August 28 2017 - 8:52 PM

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Although it isn't exactly necessary for the queens to be fertilized, since they can't make workers anyways.


If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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#15 Offline Shaye - Posted August 29 2017 - 1:06 AM

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I feel like this is a is a slightly useless species to the average hobbyist (unless they have a tetramorium colony with no queen). Very interesting nonetheless.

Edited by Shaye, August 29 2017 - 1:06 AM.

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#16 Offline Shaye - Posted August 29 2017 - 1:12 AM

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I feel like this is a is a slightly useless species to the average hobbyist (unless they have a tetramorium colony with no queen). Very interesting nonetheless.


I should add that I don't mean this in any way to detract from this subject, or be negative. I ended up researching quite a bit about this species from the creation of this topic, and it's extremely fascinating how they make their way to live. Just clarifying.

A question that sometimes drives me hazy: am I or are the others crazy?


#17 Offline MegaMyrmex - Posted August 29 2017 - 6:41 AM

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I feel like this is a is a slightly useless species to the average hobbyist (unless they have a tetramorium colony with no queen). Very interesting nonetheless.


I should add that I don't mean this in any way to detract from this subject, or be negative. I ended up researching quite a bit about this species from the creation of this topic, and it's extremely fascinating how they make their way to live. Just clarifying.
Yeah me too
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#18 Offline MegaMyrmex - Posted August 29 2017 - 6:17 PM

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Okay I managed to introduce a mated queen into my beginning Tetramorium sp E WHILE THE ORIGINAL FOUNDING QUEEN WAS INSIDE. They accepted her and she shed her wings. It'll be interesting to see what happens now...
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