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HELP! CAUGHT ANERGATES, NOW WHAT?


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#1 Offline MegaMyrmex - Posted August 28 2017 - 9:55 AM

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Exactly what the title says. What do I do????

Proverbs 6:6-8 New International Version (NIV)

Go to the ant, you sluggard;
    consider its ways and be wise!
It has no commander,
    no overseer or ruler,
yet it stores its provisions in summer
    and gathers its food at harvest.

 


#2 Offline AntsMaryland - Posted August 28 2017 - 9:59 AM

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We have Anergates in Maryland?


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wait, so you mean you caught Tetramorium?


Aphaenogaster cf. rudis 

Tetramorium immigrans 

Tapinoma sessile

Formica subsericea

Pheidole sp.

Camponotus nearcticus


#3 Offline Reacker - Posted August 28 2017 - 10:04 AM

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Eat it to gain its power.


Edited by Reacker, August 28 2017 - 4:01 PM.

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#4 Offline AntsMaryland - Posted August 28 2017 - 10:11 AM

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Eat it to gain it's power.

Wouldn't that hurt? :)


Aphaenogaster cf. rudis 

Tetramorium immigrans 

Tapinoma sessile

Formica subsericea

Pheidole sp.

Camponotus nearcticus


#5 Offline sgheaton - Posted August 28 2017 - 10:33 AM

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Eat it to gain it's power.

Wouldn't that hurt? :)

 

Clearly you need to eat more for more power. 


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#6 Offline AntsMaryland - Posted August 28 2017 - 10:52 AM

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Eat it to gain it's power.

Wouldn't that hurt? :)

 

Clearly you need to eat more for more power. 

 

Maybe if I start eating fire ants I'll be able to breathe fire...!? :P


Aphaenogaster cf. rudis 

Tetramorium immigrans 

Tapinoma sessile

Formica subsericea

Pheidole sp.

Camponotus nearcticus


#7 Offline Nathant2131 - Posted August 28 2017 - 11:30 AM

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Anergates atratulus was renamed Tetramorium atratulum.

#8 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted August 28 2017 - 11:40 AM

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They are inquiline social parasites of queenless Tetramorium colonies. I don't have much experience introducing them, but try to use workers from inside a nest. You can also sweep up or use an aspirator on workers from a Tetramorium war, but I don't know if this will affect the outcome of the queen.


Edited by Batspiderfish, August 28 2017 - 11:45 AM.

If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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#9 Offline LC3 - Posted August 28 2017 - 12:45 PM

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Wait don't parasitize colonies with queens since their curled gaster is used to cup onto the host queen's gaster and they just spend their lifetime clinging onto the host queen?



#10 Offline MegaMyrmex - Posted August 28 2017 - 5:07 PM

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Wait don't parasitize colonies with queens since their curled gaster is used to cup onto the host queen's gaster and they just spend their lifetime clinging onto the host queen?

That's teleutomyrmex.

We have Anergates in Maryland?
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wait, so you mean you caught Tetramorium?

Yeah they used to be called anergates but now they are simply regarded as Tetramorium atratulum. I introduced a male to one of my founding colonies by accident instead of a queen. I also saw a male and a worker mating so hopefully I'll have some more queen. Also, I saw one of the males mating with a queen pupa.

Proverbs 6:6-8 New International Version (NIV)

Go to the ant, you sluggard;
    consider its ways and be wise!
It has no commander,
    no overseer or ruler,
yet it stores its provisions in summer
    and gathers its food at harvest.

 


#11 Offline MegaMyrmex - Posted August 28 2017 - 5:10 PM

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I should also point out that there is a colony of these ants and their host in my backyard.

Proverbs 6:6-8 New International Version (NIV)

Go to the ant, you sluggard;
    consider its ways and be wise!
It has no commander,
    no overseer or ruler,
yet it stores its provisions in summer
    and gathers its food at harvest.

 


#12 Offline AntsMaryland - Posted August 28 2017 - 5:15 PM

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That's so cool


Aphaenogaster cf. rudis 

Tetramorium immigrans 

Tapinoma sessile

Formica subsericea

Pheidole sp.

Camponotus nearcticus


#13 Offline MegaMyrmex - Posted August 28 2017 - 5:30 PM

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I can collect some more and try some more experiments, and I found an inseminated queen trying to fly out of the container that they're in.

Proverbs 6:6-8 New International Version (NIV)

Go to the ant, you sluggard;
    consider its ways and be wise!
It has no commander,
    no overseer or ruler,
yet it stores its provisions in summer
    and gathers its food at harvest.

 


#14 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted August 28 2017 - 8:52 PM

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Although it isn't exactly necessary for the queens to be fertilized, since they can't make workers anyways.


If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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Black lives still matter.


#15 Offline Shaye - Posted August 29 2017 - 1:06 AM

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I feel like this is a is a slightly useless species to the average hobbyist (unless they have a tetramorium colony with no queen). Very interesting nonetheless.

Edited by Shaye, August 29 2017 - 1:06 AM.

A question that sometimes drives me hazy: am I or are the others crazy?


#16 Offline Shaye - Posted August 29 2017 - 1:12 AM

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I feel like this is a is a slightly useless species to the average hobbyist (unless they have a tetramorium colony with no queen). Very interesting nonetheless.


I should add that I don't mean this in any way to detract from this subject, or be negative. I ended up researching quite a bit about this species from the creation of this topic, and it's extremely fascinating how they make their way to live. Just clarifying.

A question that sometimes drives me hazy: am I or are the others crazy?


#17 Offline MegaMyrmex - Posted August 29 2017 - 6:41 AM

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I feel like this is a is a slightly useless species to the average hobbyist (unless they have a tetramorium colony with no queen). Very interesting nonetheless.


I should add that I don't mean this in any way to detract from this subject, or be negative. I ended up researching quite a bit about this species from the creation of this topic, and it's extremely fascinating how they make their way to live. Just clarifying.
Yeah me too

Proverbs 6:6-8 New International Version (NIV)

Go to the ant, you sluggard;
    consider its ways and be wise!
It has no commander,
    no overseer or ruler,
yet it stores its provisions in summer
    and gathers its food at harvest.

 


#18 Offline MegaMyrmex - Posted August 29 2017 - 6:17 PM

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Okay I managed to introduce a mated queen into my beginning Tetramorium sp E WHILE THE ORIGINAL FOUNDING QUEEN WAS INSIDE. They accepted her and she shed her wings. It'll be interesting to see what happens now...
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Proverbs 6:6-8 New International Version (NIV)

Go to the ant, you sluggard;
    consider its ways and be wise!
It has no commander,
    no overseer or ruler,
yet it stores its provisions in summer
    and gathers its food at harvest.

 





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