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Socal Myrmecocystus Anting/Planning thread

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#1 Offline soulsynapse - Posted July 16 2017 - 12:45 PM

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Barring another bad weather report, this should be the big one.

 

https://www.ventusky...c&t=20170721/21

 

I'm planning on heading out to where the 10 meets Cottonwood Springs road and going up and down it over a couple days on Friday.

 

The more locations we hit up the more likely we'll find places with flights of m. mexicanus and m. navajo

 

Where are you guys going?


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#2 Online nurbs - Posted July 16 2017 - 3:06 PM

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That prediction only gives a general idea of where the storms might be heading in a week. You'd be amazed how quickly the predictions change on a day to day basis.

 

What you need to do is check the radar on a daily basis and pinpoint the location where it gets the most rain and is the most intense on that specific day. These desert storms appear and disappear within a 1-3 hour time frame, and it is very easy to miss if you're not constantly checking.

 

Here is the map of the radar from last week where I drove out and found N. cockerelli. The map took me out to a dirt road out in the middle of nowhere in the desert. Took multiple screen shots of the area before I left, which helped me ascertain where to drive out to and park. Once I got to the general area, I would shovel some dirt up and get an idea of how wet the ground was. If it wasn't wet enough, I'd drive down further til there was a spot where the ground was soaked several inches deep.

 

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So when you say you are going to the 10 and cottonwood springs next week, that is not going to guarantee a find. Unless that whole area got a torrential thunderstorm all day long, you will have to be more exact. You have to look that specific day, and maybe down to the specific hour, and then plan accordingly when and where to drive out to.

 

Part of it is also a gamble, because that area may have already had flights as well. The night I drove out after those storms, nothing flew. It was too cold, actually. So I decided to  stay another night and then everything flew.

 

EDIT:

You have to act quick. It hovers from 100-110 deg in the socal desert right now. By the third day, the ground surface will have nearly dried up and there will be no trace of rain.


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#3 Offline soulsynapse - Posted July 16 2017 - 3:41 PM

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This is really good info, thanks nurbs. I was curious where I could get very reliable weather history and I found a page from the NWS

 

https://water.weather.gov/precip/#

 

You can sort precipitation totals by day, week, two weeks or month! Not quite as grainular as the website you posted an image of but should be pretty good for general purposes.

 

Edit: I just saw the website you linked has 24 hour precipitation totals, what site are you using?

 

Edit 2: found it https://www.accuweat...eather-radar-rs

 

Edit 3: You can make perma links from weather.gov, https://water.weathe...&domain=current


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#4 Online nurbs - Posted July 16 2017 - 3:59 PM

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Yeah, the 24 hour visual precip is good info. Wish these websites had a longer history, though.


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#5 Offline soulsynapse - Posted July 16 2017 - 4:04 PM

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Yeah, the 24 hour visual precip is good info. Wish these websites had a longer history, though.

 

One I linked has 1 week, 2 week and 1 month


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#6 Online nurbs - Posted July 16 2017 - 4:25 PM

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Ah, thanks Soul. Good info.


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#7 Online nurbs - Posted July 16 2017 - 6:37 PM

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So have you been watching the radar from today?

Drew and I will probably be heading out tomorrow  :)


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#8 Offline soulsynapse - Posted July 16 2017 - 7:14 PM

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Yea right out to the border? You guys are nuts. I'm stuck working in San Diego for tomorrow and Tuesday. Unless people have a great haul I'm banking on Thursday


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#9 Offline soulsynapse - Posted July 16 2017 - 8:31 PM

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http://www.eldoradoc...hwest-radar.php

 

This radar's 24 hour rainfall map is the most accurate I've seen so far


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#10 Offline dspdrew - Posted July 17 2017 - 5:29 AM

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You guys are nuts.

 

Yeah, pretty much haha.


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#11 Offline soulsynapse - Posted July 17 2017 - 2:11 PM

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Storming again right now up where you guys are going

 


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#12 Offline soulsynapse - Posted July 17 2017 - 2:25 PM

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Barstow right now

 

 


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#13 Online nurbs - Posted July 17 2017 - 2:30 PM

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Yeah, we know haha. That area below the 40 near Barstow is always storming. It's a mountain range.


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#14 Offline soulsynapse - Posted July 17 2017 - 6:02 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/iOLCzbK.mp4


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#15 Offline soulsynapse - Posted July 18 2017 - 5:28 PM

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#16 Offline soulsynapse - Posted July 18 2017 - 5:33 PM

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24 hour rainfall:

 


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#17 Offline Klassien - Posted July 18 2017 - 5:48 PM

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Your guys' weather is weird, it just stays in one spot :o 


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#18 Offline Scrixx - Posted July 18 2017 - 6:02 PM

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Your guys' weather is weird, it just stays in one spot :o

 

Those are by mountains so they're just hanging out


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#19 Offline soulsynapse - Posted July 18 2017 - 7:10 PM

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Rain over the last 24 hours:

 


Edited by soulsynapse, July 18 2017 - 7:11 PM.

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#20 Online nurbs - Posted July 18 2017 - 7:13 PM

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I am out of town til Monday of next week (going to Vancouver!). Wish I could stick around and look for honeypots with you guys.

 

The area near Goffs looks prime for some flights tonight and tomorrow. Also, avoid using the animated GIFS for radar. You can't scrub through it or pause and notice the time or how long it has been raining. It looks cool and pretty but not informative. Just take one screenshot at a time.

 

Anyway, good luck! Let us know if you find anything.

 

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