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Suspected C. Worker ID Request (Florida)


Best Answer Cindy , April 6 2017 - 6:10 PM

If the head and thorax are darkish red and the gaster is black, there is a very good chance of it being Camponotus Floridanus. I can't confirm w/o a better picture, but if your phone quality isn't great you can compare it with some of these pics and see if it matches yours.

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#1 Offline super_oil - Posted April 6 2017 - 5:39 PM

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There is a lot of these ants in my backyard, I think they're Camponotus but they're pretty small (minors are about 5mm long and majors are around 7mm). I really hope that they are Camponotus workers because I want to ketch a C. queen this year. 

 

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#2 Offline Kevin - Posted April 6 2017 - 5:43 PM

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We can hardly tell that it's an ant, we would need clearer pictures of side views and head views.


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#3 Offline dspdrew - Posted April 6 2017 - 5:47 PM

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What picture?



#4 Offline Cindy - Posted April 6 2017 - 5:49 PM

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Side pic please.

#5 Offline super_oil - Posted April 6 2017 - 5:51 PM

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We can hardly tell that it's an ant, we would need clearer pictures of side views and head views.

  Heres another picture that might be a little better  http://imgur.com/vF9Abe9

  Some useful extra info include : They love feeding on nectar and they follow each other in a conga line while foraging.

  Also the way you interpreted the response triggers me, the ant is very small, I tried my best to take a picture with a phone, I think it went well and you can pretty clearly see that it's an ant but you sounded kind of mean so it sort of annoyed me, no offense.


Edited by super_oil, April 6 2017 - 5:52 PM.

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#6 Offline super_oil - Posted April 6 2017 - 5:55 PM

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Sorry if I'm doing things wrong, I'm not typically good at anything.


Just a little boy that likes ants. I try my best to be mature and competent.

 

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#7 Offline super_oil - Posted April 6 2017 - 6:02 PM

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Heres the information according to the template

1. Location of collection: My backyard, Florida, Jacksonville
2. Date of collection: 4/6
3. Habitat of collection: Backyard
4. Length (from head to gaster): about 5mm
5. Color, hue, pattern and texture: Not very shiny, black and red
6. Distinguishing characteristics: Looks kind of like a carpenter ant,
7. Distinguishing behavior: Likes flower nectar, follows each other when foraging
8. Nest description: I can't find their nest

 

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#8 Offline Cindy - Posted April 6 2017 - 6:10 PM   Best Answer

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If the head and thorax are darkish red and the gaster is black, there is a very good chance of it being Camponotus Floridanus. I can't confirm w/o a better picture, but if your phone quality isn't great you can compare it with some of these pics and see if it matches yours.


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#9 Offline super_oil - Posted April 6 2017 - 6:24 PM

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If the head and thorax are darkish red and the gaster is black, there is a very good chance of it being Camponotus Floridanus. I can't confirm w/o a better picture, but if your phone quality isn't great you can compare it with some of these pics and see if it matches yours.

  This is definitely not a C. floridanus due to it's small size of only 5mm (I think I've seen a C. floridanus minor and it is over 10mm long with a much more skinny body), but after reading the information you posted, It had a hyperlink which directed me to the information on C. planatus, I think this could very likely be a C. planatus. In the scale comparison it very perfectly sizes the worker I've caught (5mm). Thank you for directing me to that page!

 
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#10 Offline VoidElecent - Posted April 6 2017 - 6:27 PM

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We can hardly tell that it's an ant, we would need clearer pictures of side views and head views.

  Heres another picture that might be a little better  http://imgur.com/vF9Abe9

  Some useful extra info include : They love feeding on nectar and they follow each other in a conga line while foraging.

  Also the way you interpreted the response triggers me, the ant is very small, I tried my best to take a picture with a phone, I think it went well and you can pretty clearly see that it's an ant but you sounded kind of mean so it sort of annoyed me, no offense.

 

I don't think Kevin was trying to be rude, and he does have a point. I would recommend snapping a couple pictures from different angles (you want to get a couple from the side) and maybe a couple more in some better lighting, so we can get a better sense of the coloration.

 

The shape makes it look like either Camponotus or Formica, but we'll have to do a little more digging to determine the actually species.


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#11 Offline super_oil - Posted April 6 2017 - 6:33 PM

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If the head and thorax are darkish red and the gaster is black, there is a very good chance of it being Camponotus Floridanus. I can't confirm w/o a better picture, but if your phone quality isn't great you can compare it with some of these pics and see if it matches yours.

  This is definitely not a C. floridanus due to it's small size of only 5mm (I think I've seen a C. floridanus minor and it is over 10mm long with a much more skinny body), but after reading the information you posted, It had a hyperlink which directed me to the information on C. planatus, I think this could very likely be a C. planatus. In the scale comparison it very perfectly sizes the worker I've caught (5mm). Thank you for directing me to that page!

 

 

That being said, there is only one video on youtube currently about C. planatus, so it would be very intresting to be one of the first people to document on a C. planatus colony in captivity.

Also here is the link to the page: http://entnemdept.uf.../c_planatus.htm


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#12 Offline Runner12 - Posted April 6 2017 - 6:56 PM

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Looks like it might be Camponotus decipiens with that size and coloration, but could be planatus too, can you get some better pics? From above would help

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#13 Offline super_oil - Posted April 6 2017 - 7:15 PM

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Looks like it might be Camponotus decipiens with that size and coloration, but could be planatus too, can you get some better pics? From above would help

  The thing is C. decipiens is pretty shiny yet this one isn't shiny at all, so I'm confirming it as planatus.


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