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My termites (Zootermopsis angusticolis)


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#41 Offline Runner12 - Posted May 28 2017 - 8:16 PM

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Yeah I've kind one seen the same thing, the "workers" are all destined to either become alates or soldiers.. I'm still not sure where the neotenics come in though since they're neither alates or soldiers...

#42 Offline Runner12 - Posted June 15 2017 - 7:35 PM

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Since I'm not sure when or if the termitat will be available again, Zootermopsis angusticollis can be ordered here:

https://www.wardsci....-i-zootermopsis

If you are interested in making your own. Mine arrived today in good condition, going to wait and see if any eggs show up.

#43 Online Vendayn - Posted June 15 2017 - 8:38 PM

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Since I'm not sure when or if the termitat will be available again, Zootermopsis angusticollis can be ordered here:

https://www.wardsci....-i-zootermopsis

If you are interested in making your own. Mine arrived today in good condition, going to wait and see if any eggs show up.

I'm curious about the no reproductive termites it says it does NOT send. As far as I know and been discovered in the thread, a good portion of nymphs (if not all of them) can turn into reproductives when needed. Wonder how they actually know which one is a reproductive or not, or maybe there is a different coloring (like on Bugguide it said they are yellowish). But, every other site, including straight from an university (Forestry) page on them, there are only nymphs, winged reproductives and soldiers. Nymphs can then change roles when needed. 

 

So I wonder if they just say that for legal reasons, or if they know more information on them, that can not be found on google and not fully explained on the Forestry website posted in the last page (page 2).


Edited by Vendayn, June 15 2017 - 8:40 PM.


#44 Offline Serafine - Posted June 16 2017 - 1:30 AM

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I'm pretty sure any of the nymphs can be reproductives if needed, and read one site that said they sometimes all fight for dominance and kill the actual queen. Which I've seen said for subterranean termites as well, where the reproductives take over (by killing the queen) and produce an even better colony (which is funny that a colony does better with reproductives than the actual queen lol).

Some ants (like Harpegnathos) actually do something similar, with their very short-lived queens and the gamergates taking over (and fighting for reproduction rights in ritualized jousting duels) after the queen died.
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#45 Offline Runner12 - Posted June 16 2017 - 5:17 AM

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I'm honestly not sure. They included two larger golden brown ones that look like
Neotenics, but no soldiers. Some with wing buds too and some small nymphs. Just going to wait and see what happens.

The main reason I got them was just to see if I get any egg production and if it's possible to get a colony from just workers since I'm still not really sure based on what I've read.

Edited by Runner12, June 16 2017 - 5:29 AM.


#46 Offline Runner12 - Posted June 17 2017 - 5:29 PM

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Well so already some eggs in my mock termitat,just FYI.

#47 Online Vendayn - Posted June 17 2017 - 10:20 PM

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Well so already some eggs in my mock termitat,just FYI.

Well, that is very fast. Two days and already eggs. That is pretty impressive. And guess the site sends reproductives lol, I guess just not the "king and queen" ones.

 

Do you have any pictures of what you made?



#48 Offline Runner12 - Posted June 18 2017 - 8:35 AM

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Yeah sure. Nothing fancy, just made it out of some half inch wood Dowling and two small plexiglass plates.

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More eggs this am, probably around ten now. I'll still buy a termitat if they ever come back since my version isn't exactly pretty lol.

#49 Online ctantkeeper - Posted June 18 2017 - 9:04 AM

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This is an awesome journal!!! we need more termite journals like this. I personally just started rearing my four Reticulitermes flavipes colonies a few weeks ago and they are doing great. 



#50 Offline MegaMyrmex - Posted June 24 2017 - 1:48 PM

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Nice termites, but where's the queen? I've always wanted to see one of those...


Current colonies-

 

- 2 Camponotus chromaoides(1 colony has 4 workers, other 1 worker) 

- 1 Tetramorium immigrans colony(7 workers)

- 1 Aphaenogaster sp. queen(founding colony)

- 2 Lasius claviger queens with host workers. They don't seem to be doing well and workers are dying off :( 

- And a whole lot of Crematogaster queens

 

Species checklist(ants found so far)-

- Aphaenogaster teneseensis

- Aphaenogaster picea

- Aphaenogaster sp.

- Brachymyrmex patagonicus

- Camponotus castaneus

- Camponotus chromaoides

- Camponotus nearcticus

- Camponotus pennsylvanicus

- Camponotus subbarbatus

- Colobopsis impressus(dead queen... :*(

- Crematogaster sp.

- Formica pallidefulva

- Formica sanguinea

- Formica subsericea

- Hypoponera sp.

- Lasius claviger

- Lasius umbratus

- Lasius neoniger

- Lasius sp.

- Monomorium minimum

- Myrmica sp.

- Nylanderia flavipes

- Pheidole morrisi

- Pheidole bicarinata

- Pheidole dentata(all pheidole found were workers only :( )

- Ponera pennsylvanica

- Prenolepis imparis

- Strumigenys rostrate

‚Äč- Stigmatomma pallipes :dance2:  :dance: 

- Tetramorium immigrans

- Tapinoma sessile

 

Queens/colonies to Look for-

- Pheidole

- Trachymyrmex septentrionalis

- Polyergus

- Dolichoderus

- Myrmica

- Stigmatomma pallipes


#51 Offline Runner12 - Posted June 29 2017 - 7:05 PM

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Termitat is back. Got mine in today, I'm very pleased with it although it is a little smaller than I thought.

The termites that came with it are a lot healthier looking than the ones I got from wards too.

#52 Online Vendayn - Posted June 29 2017 - 10:19 PM

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Termitat is back. Got mine in today, I'm very pleased with it although it is a little smaller than I thought.

The termites that came with it are a lot healthier looking than the ones I got from wards too.

awesome! :D I just looked, his site is officially online. That is awesome.

 

It did look small in the pictures, but it does still look a high quality termite farm. You'll have to keep us up to date on the progress :) I might pick one up as well, though gotta wait to get some extra money.



#53 Offline Runner12 - Posted June 30 2017 - 5:04 AM

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Will do! Reading through the literature he talks about it take about a month for supplementary reproductives to appear, so it seems like a good way to have a long lasting colony.

#54 Offline Connectimyrmex - Posted July 18 2017 - 11:26 AM

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Well, hopefully all this information doesn't hijack the journal thread. Maybe this could be split off if the creator of the journal doesn't want his thread taken over by termite facts lol.

 

But for now...

 

It doesn't say much, but does list what "forms" the Zootermopsis angusticollis have.

 

http://web.forestry....s/dampwood.html

 

Notice unlike the bugguide posted earlier and again below this, that above site says NOTHING about workers. Or the mythical fantasy of reproductive soldiers that makes no sense, except in a fantasy book or a disney kid movie about insects.

 

http://bugguide.net/node/view/75928

 

Of course, that isn't to say all the nymphs could become reproductives. But again, I'm almost positive that is the case. The downside is, there is so little information out there on termites, and especially these Pacific Dampwood termites (which is surprising because they are so big, so would think they'd get more attention. Especially because they are supposedly rather common up north) that its hard to find more concrete info. But, what is a fact is that bugguide page is a bunch of BS that is best to be ignored and not mentioned again lol.

 

So since the forestry page looks to be an actual legit website and its actually a public university, I'll take it as fact since its from, well, an actual university. I figure they'd get things right. So, even though not much actual info on the first link. It at least clarifies (which is what I've read elsewhere as well) there is no workers, only winged reproductives, nymphs and soldiers. From what I could gather, nymphs turn into reproductives as they get older, but act as "workers" when young. 

 

Its kinda sad though that so little information exists on termites. Even a common one that is so large, barely any information at all. And there are so many termites that do really interesting and unique things. Many which ants evolved to do as well, so they evolved pretty much the same. The fungus growing termites, the plant/seed harvesting termites, termites that do I guess raiding (at least with huge thick marauding looking trails). Lots of stuff, like ants do. Its interesting how they evolved almost the same way (or at least do the same kind of things), even though they aren't even related. Yet seems termites are very understudied, even for common termites.

 

 

Zootermopsis angusticollis

 

I've learned from recent experience that termite colonies will produce secondary reproductives and alate nymphs when the queen/king disappear. The nymphs molt into the new reproductives. The alates can be used to start new colonies if you wish to experience termite founding (it's pretty cool).


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#55 Offline Connectimyrmex - Posted January 4 2018 - 12:22 PM

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These are really suspicious. Every time I ask or anyone else brings it up (not just this thread, but there was another one and it was asked a lot), on how to replace the wood or expand it or anything once the wood runs out...EVERYONE completely ignores the person who says it or asks.

 

That tells me there is no way to replace the wood and its a one use (expensive) toy prop.

 

That is really cruel to the termites inside...so they'll starve to death...that is great.

 

No thanks.

This is late, but actually the termitat is really easy to open. If you don't really want to send the termitat back for a refill, you can make a new setup with damp cardboard and transplant the colony into it.


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