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Large Queen ID request Portland OR USA (solved)

Started By Goldsystem , Jul 1 2016 10:28 AM

Best Answer Canadian anter , July 3 2016 - 11:27 AM

Super large noveboracensis?

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#1 Offline Goldsystem - Posted July 1 2016 - 10:28 AM

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I found this Queen in May (don't know what time) wandering down the street while I was biking. She is 20mm long with a dark reddish brown center. But her first generation pupae are quite small which is why I'm doubting my original ID.
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Edited by Goldsystem, July 3 2016 - 8:57 PM.

#2 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted July 1 2016 - 10:59 AM

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22mm? How accurate is the measurement? Also, please always include a location for ID requests. :)

 

Is the head also red?


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#3 Offline LC3 - Posted July 1 2016 - 11:14 AM

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I think that is a Camponotus sp. but 22mm is very large for your average Camponotus.


#4 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted July 1 2016 - 4:26 PM

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I'm inclined to say Camponotus herculeanus, based on its shininess. More pictures with different lighting would help.


Edited by Batspiderfish, July 1 2016 - 4:30 PM.

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If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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#5 Offline Goldsystem - Posted July 1 2016 - 4:31 PM

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22mm? How accurate is the measurement? Also, please always include a location for ID requests. :)

Is the head also red?

The ID was in the title, Portland Oregon USA

It was hard to measure her because she's in a test tube I was measuring from the top I'll measure from the bottom of the test tube and modify my post.

No the head is black :)

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#6 Offline Goldsystem - Posted July 1 2016 - 4:32 PM

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I'm inclined to say Camponotus herculeanus, based on its shininess. More pictures with different lighting would help.


I'll take more pictures today

#7 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted July 1 2016 - 4:35 PM

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22mm? How accurate is the measurement? Also, please always include a location for ID requests. :)

Is the head also red?

The ID was in the title, Portland Oregon USA

No the head is black :)

 

 

Sorry about that! I noticed it later and personally hoped that it had just been changed.  :rolleyes:


If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

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#8 Offline Goldsystem - Posted July 1 2016 - 4:36 PM

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It's fine :)

#9 Offline Goldsystem - Posted July 1 2016 - 8:41 PM

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Here are some more pictures, and measurements have been updated.





#10 Offline LC3 - Posted July 1 2016 - 11:24 PM

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If 20mm is your final and solid measurement it doesn't fit well with Camponotus herculeanus. Which is typically around 15 -16 mm I believe.

#11 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted July 2 2016 - 8:19 AM

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I think 20mm is a little bit more reasonable at least, although this is the Camponotus subgenus queen's maximum length. 15mm is average. This sounds like one big queen!


Edited by Batspiderfish, July 2 2016 - 8:20 AM.

If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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#12 Offline Goldsystem - Posted July 2 2016 - 10:51 AM

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Well the first worker should enclose in a week or so, I can update it this post at that time.
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#13 Offline Canadian anter - Posted July 3 2016 - 11:27 AM   Best Answer

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Super large noveboracensis?


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#14 Offline Batspiderfish - Posted July 3 2016 - 4:29 PM

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Super large noveboracensis?

 

You know what? I thought that Oregon was out of the range of Camponotus novaeboracensis (the proper spelling of the New York carpenter ant, despite what google will tell you,) but I think you might actually have a case with this. I was only comparing C. herculeanus with C. modoc on the basis that Camponotus modoc is hairier, but the coloration, shininess, and still the size are all very consistent with Camponotus novaeboracensis. Perhaps I underestimated their range.


Edited by Batspiderfish, July 3 2016 - 4:29 PM.

If you've enjoyed using my expertise and identifications, please do not create undue ecological risk by releasing your ants. The environment which we keep our pet insects is alien and oftentimes unsanitary, so ensure that wild populations stay safe by giving your ants the best care you can manage for the rest of their lives, as we must do with any other pet.

 

Exotic ants are for those who think that vibrant diversity is something you need to pay money to see. It is illegal to transport live ants across state lines.

 

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#15 Offline Goldsystem - Posted July 3 2016 - 8:55 PM

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I believe it's a camponotus noveboracensis aswell, thanks for the help.

Edited by Goldsystem, July 3 2016 - 8:56 PM.

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