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#1 Offline Foogoo - Posted July 16 2015 - 7:07 AM

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Since all the workers of one of my Formica francoeuri died after a failed move attempt, she's been absolutely restless so I'm trying to boost her with a pupa. I know a lot of cocooned pupae need help emerging from their bodybags. Should I try boosting with a naked pupa? Or can I trust that the nanitic will be able to emerge or that her motherly instincts will kick in and give it a hand?


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#2 Offline dspdrew - Posted July 16 2015 - 7:41 AM

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bodybags

 

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#3 Offline Gregory2455 - Posted July 20 2015 - 11:30 AM

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My M.creightoni would have a problem when helping nanitics emerge from pupae. Two generations of her brood were a waste because she would refuse to help them out of the "bodybags." Finally she decided to help one and that's how she finaly got a worker. I say give her as many pupae with bodybags as you want, but see if you can find a few without them.



#4 Offline LC3 - Posted July 20 2015 - 11:41 AM

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Why do Myrmicinea pupae don't make body bags while Formicine, Ponerinae, and Dolichoderinae do? o.O



#5 Offline Crystals - Posted July 20 2015 - 2:23 PM

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If you have really fine tweezers you can remove hte cocoons from the pupae.

Or you can try to get the naked pupae.  Just watch that you don't grab alate pupae, look for pupae smaller than the workers.


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#6 Offline BugFinder - Posted July 20 2015 - 2:58 PM

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My californicus seem to have some in "bodybags" and some are naked.  Is that normal?


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#7 Offline Foogoo - Posted July 20 2015 - 3:52 PM

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My californicus seem to have some in "bodybags" and some are naked.  Is that normal?

Got a pic? I don't recall Pogonomyrmex having cocoons...


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#8 Offline AntsAreUs - Posted July 20 2015 - 4:09 PM

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Haha, new ant term "bodybags" the cocoon like shell around a pupa of certain ant species.


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#9 Offline Foogoo - Posted July 20 2015 - 5:48 PM

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Haha, new ant term "bodybags" the cocoon like shell around a pupa of certain ant species.

Well that is what they are, literally and figuratively!


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#10 Offline William. T - Posted July 20 2015 - 6:18 PM

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Bodybags make great food for ants. Just grab a few workers with the bodybags, and they bodybags will keep for days.


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#11 Offline dspdrew - Posted July 23 2015 - 9:32 AM

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My californicus seem to have some in "bodybags" and some are naked.  Is that normal?

Got a pic? I don't recall Pogos having cocoons...

 

 

Myrmicinae never make cocoons.


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