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Discuss: byFormica's Sunburst Ant Nectar


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#61 Offline Guzzer - Posted May 17 2017 - 3:42 PM

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I have tried this on some of our Australian Myrmecia, Pheidole & Aphaenogaster ants. Most of the ants that took to sweet liquids/solids (Mayple syrup - raw honey) really love this product.

I have been using as instructed by GamerGate to place it on a cotton ball and a few drops every few days.

 

I am finding I only need to place a few drops twice a week.

Great product as it's less mess and no preparation needed.



#62 Offline iXvXi - Posted May 18 2017 - 2:36 PM

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While I continue to give it to my tetramoriums, they don't seem to interested. I have never had them empty a container. I do not see them on the units ever. They seem more interested in chicken from my pizza.


I find my Tetramorium don't drink much sucrose at all in general, and their diet is mainly protein. Very small ants and giant brood piles, makes sense I guess. Whenever I decide to feed my Tetramorium they do drink it, but they can never finish much nectar of any type at all.

Maybe my colony is an exception but my Tetramorium colony drinks about 4ml of sunburst weekly; sometimes more. They're also about 1.5-2k strong, maybe they're taking to it and you're just not noticing due to the colony size?

Tetramorium are typically attracted to sweets. Are you supplying another source of sugar?
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#63 Offline Bracchymyrmex - Posted May 18 2017 - 5:54 PM

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Maybe my colony is an exception but my Tetramorium colony drinks about 4ml of sunburst weekly; sometimes more. They're also about 1.5-2k strong, maybe they're taking to it and you're just not noticing due to the colony size?

Tetramorium are typically attracted to sweets. Are you supplying another source of sugar?

 

 

You have a colony of Tetramorium with over 1,500 workers??


  • Camponotus pennsylvanicus (4x) 
  • Nylanderia cf. flavipes (10x) 
  • Nylanderia faisonensis (1x) 
  • Prenolepis imparis (15x) 
  • Crematogaster cf. cerasi (1x)
  • Brachymyrmex depilis (1x) 
  • Lasius cf. neoniger (1x)
  • Myrmica spp. (2x)
  • Canis lupus (1x)
 

#64 Offline drtrmiller - Posted May 19 2017 - 3:12 AM

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I always tell folks that small or unhealthy colonies, those without a lot of brood, or those entering or just exiting diapause, will generally have different dietary preferences compared to large, healthy colonies with lots of brood.

As you mention, iXvXi, most issues with Sunburst receptivity probably have to do with redundancy caused by feeding other sugars, such as honey. For some reason, antkeepers have some strange notion that honey is a required or preferred sugar source because it is "natural." From a chemical standpoint, it is not necessary to feed other sugary foods when feeding Sunburst, because they provide roughly equivalent nutritive and chemical properties.  The difference is that Sunburst has been optimized for receptivity, whereas honey is a concentrate intended for consumption by bees and their larvae.
 

You have a colony of Tetramorium with over 1,500 workers??


"A colony can sustain about 10,000 workers who weigh about 6.5g in the aggregate (Wilson 1971). (National Pest Management Association inc., 2001; Wilson, 1971)"

 

This website has accrued a lot of information on the species: http://animaldiversi...rium_caespitum/


Edited by drtrmiller, May 19 2017 - 3:13 AM.

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