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Can pogonomyrmex live in a mini hearth?


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#1 Offline Manitobant - Posted August 18 2019 - 9:58 AM

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I'm thinking of getting some pogonomyrmex occidentalis as they are also being sold in canada and I'm wondering if vertical formicariums like the mini hearth would be safe for them as they arent good climbers. I know tar heel ants is selling them with mini hearths but I'm still wondering if this is a good idea or not.

#2 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted August 18 2019 - 10:10 AM

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Tarheelants sells them with a mini hearth as an option.

#3 Offline ANTdrew - Posted August 18 2019 - 11:52 AM

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Get the mini-hearth with the horizontally attached foraging area, so they don’t have to climb anything.
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#4 Offline Antennal_Scrobe - Posted August 18 2019 - 1:40 PM

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I made sure to do just that when I ordered mine. As a side note, Tetramorium are also completely incapable of living in a vertical Mini-Hearth, which I learned the hard way.


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Tetramorium immigrans, Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Myrmica punctiventris, Formica subsericea

Formica pallidefulva, Aphaeogaster cf. rudis

Camponotus pennsylvanicus

Camponotus nearcticus

Crematogaster cerasi

Temnothorax ambiguus

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#5 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted August 18 2019 - 1:47 PM

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I only have a vertical one. Shouldn’t they be able to cling it?

#6 Offline ANTdrew - Posted August 18 2019 - 1:51 PM

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I made sure to do just that when I ordered mine. As a side note, Tetramorium are also completely incapable of living in a vertical Mini-Hearth, which I learned the hard way.



I’ve raised massive colonies in vertical mini-hearths. They can climb, but they suck at climbing Fluon, which makes them perfect ants to keep.
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#7 Offline Antennal_Scrobe - Posted August 18 2019 - 2:29 PM

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Really? Maybe they just prefer not to climb vinyl tubing then. I still prefer the horizontal Mini-Hearth, just so I never have to worry about ants not going to the outworld.


Currently keeping:

 

Tetramorium immigrans, Pogonomyrmex occidentalis

Myrmica punctiventris, Formica subsericea

Formica pallidefulva, Aphaeogaster cf. rudis

Camponotus pennsylvanicus

Camponotus nearcticus

Crematogaster cerasi

Temnothorax ambiguus

Prenolepis imparis


#8 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted August 18 2019 - 4:24 PM

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Really? Maybe they just prefer not to climb vinyl tubing then. I still prefer the horizontal Mini-Hearth, just so I never have to worry about ants not going to the outworld.

Vertical is a bit more natural for most ants though.

#9 Offline Manitobant - Posted August 18 2019 - 4:58 PM

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Get the mini-hearth with the horizontally attached foraging area, so they don’t have to climb anything.

I already have a mini hearth but its vertical and I'm not getting my occidentalis fron tar heel, I'm getting them from a canadian supplier.

#10 Offline spartANTS - Posted August 18 2019 - 6:50 PM

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There is an Ant Keeper from this forum forgot the name ( he drive a car and wear glass , that is picture profile) sugested for the vertical mini hearth u can put some glue on the vinyl and add some sand substract it help her to reach the outworld.

also you can connect the test tube to the mini hearth from the side so she can take a stroll.

 

do they also sell seeds for the Pogonomyrmex ?

 

I may try to start a another Pogonomyrmex, this time i bypass the mini hearth and put her into a dual test tube with outworld  (it look like a  2 gun turret )

1 side with the original test tube (no stress) and the other one maybe empty and full of seeds nygers etc... and sand  in the outworld.


Edited by spartANTS, August 18 2019 - 8:22 PM.


#11 Offline Silq - Posted August 18 2019 - 9:10 PM

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I have p. Californicus and they suck at climbing. They are great in my vertical sand formicarium but elsewhere they struggle. You can glue or grout sand onto walls and they can climb that easier.

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#12 Offline Chandlerk - Posted August 25 2019 - 8:21 AM

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Can't the vinyl tube just be removed?

#13 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted August 25 2019 - 10:30 AM

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You could put a stick down the hole so they could climb up. The stick would have to be thin though.

Edited by Kaelwizard, August 25 2019 - 10:30 AM.





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