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Formica pallidefulva Journal

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#1 Offline Antennal_Scrobe - Posted July 21 2019 - 5:20 PM

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Today I caught two Formica pallidefulva queens outside the Mitchell Park Domes. I know Formica are polygynous, so I introduced both queens to a test tube setup, and they moved in together. They are like two peas in a pod, huddled up together. Both are slightly bloated, but not to the extent that I can see any white flesh showing. I like this species, and I hope they do well.


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 Tetramorium immigrans

 Temnothorax curvispinosus

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 Formica pallidefulva

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#2 Offline Acutus - Posted July 21 2019 - 5:21 PM

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Good luck!! :D


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Aphaenogaster "NOT tennesseensis" fulva

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#3 Offline Kaelwizard - Posted July 22 2019 - 6:32 AM

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Formica are not polygonous. Not usually anyway. The will suffocate in the acid they try to kill each other with if they fight.

#4 Online Ant_Dude2908 - Posted July 22 2019 - 6:48 AM

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Formica are not polygonous. Not usually anyway. The will suffocate in the acid they try to kill each other with if they fight.


Formica in the pallidefullva group are polygynous. Some in the fusca and neogagates groups are.
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#5 Offline Antennal_Scrobe - Posted July 22 2019 - 10:42 AM

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I know F. montana is as well. A small colony in my yard has 5+ queens. 


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 Tetramorium immigrans

 Temnothorax curvispinosus

 Camponotus nearcticus

 Lasius aphidicola

 Formica pallidefulva

 Camponotus pennsylvanicus


#6 Offline Antennal_Scrobe - Posted July 24 2019 - 10:14 AM

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The gaster of one of the queens is very swollen. There may actually be a couple eggs already, but I can't get a good look at them.


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 Tetramorium immigrans

 Temnothorax curvispinosus

 Camponotus nearcticus

 Lasius aphidicola

 Formica pallidefulva

 Camponotus pennsylvanicus


#7 Offline Antennal_Scrobe - Posted July 24 2019 - 10:53 AM

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They certainly have a few eggs! I can't tell how many, but the off-white clump that is currently captivating the queens sure looks like an egg pile to me. If the one queen's gaster is any indication, there will be many more where those came from.


Currently keeping:

 

 Tetramorium immigrans

 Temnothorax curvispinosus

 Camponotus nearcticus

 Lasius aphidicola

 Formica pallidefulva

 Camponotus pennsylvanicus


#8 Offline Antennal_Scrobe - Posted July 24 2019 - 2:23 PM

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I caught two more queens today, one of which I started a journal for before realizing it was the same species. Both are in their own test tubes, I would not mix queens that I caught at a different time or place. Is there a way I can delete the accidental journal?


Currently keeping:

 

 Tetramorium immigrans

 Temnothorax curvispinosus

 Camponotus nearcticus

 Lasius aphidicola

 Formica pallidefulva

 Camponotus pennsylvanicus


#9 Offline Antennal_Scrobe - Posted July 24 2019 - 3:48 PM

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The two new queens are combined now. I really needed a test tube.


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 Tetramorium immigrans

 Temnothorax curvispinosus

 Camponotus nearcticus

 Lasius aphidicola

 Formica pallidefulva

 Camponotus pennsylvanicus


#10 Offline Antennal_Scrobe - Posted July 25 2019 - 6:41 AM

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The two queens from yesterday are separate again. The 2 queens I am keeping together are getting along together very well. One of the recent queens twitches her legs constantly.


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 Tetramorium immigrans

 Temnothorax curvispinosus

 Camponotus nearcticus

 Lasius aphidicola

 Formica pallidefulva

 Camponotus pennsylvanicus


#11 Offline Antennal_Scrobe - Posted July 29 2019 - 5:12 PM

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Queens 1 and 2 are still getting along, and have a nice amount of eggs. Queen 3, who is a bit smaller and darker than the others, has about two eggs as of today. Queen 4, appears to have no eggs, but she stares intently at one point on the cotton ball, indicating that there may be unseen brood.


Currently keeping:

 

 Tetramorium immigrans

 Temnothorax curvispinosus

 Camponotus nearcticus

 Lasius aphidicola

 Formica pallidefulva

 Camponotus pennsylvanicus


#12 Offline Antennal_Scrobe - Posted August 7 2019 - 6:18 AM

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All queens now have eggs. Queens 1 and 2 have a large pile, and possibly small larvae as well.


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 Tetramorium immigrans

 Temnothorax curvispinosus

 Camponotus nearcticus

 Lasius aphidicola

 Formica pallidefulva

 Camponotus pennsylvanicus


#13 Offline Acutus - Posted August 7 2019 - 7:12 AM

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Sounds like things are going well!  (y)


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Currently keeping:

Camponotus chromaiodes

Camponotus castaneus

Camponotus pennsylvanicus

Aphaenogaster "NOT tennesseensis" fulva

Formica subsericea


#14 Offline Antennal_Scrobe - Posted August 7 2019 - 9:44 AM

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Do you have any tips about this species, like what to expect, what to watch out for etc.? It seems almost too good to be true that I would have so much success with a genus I always heard was full of brood-eating, acid-spraying nervous wrecks.


Currently keeping:

 

 Tetramorium immigrans

 Temnothorax curvispinosus

 Camponotus nearcticus

 Lasius aphidicola

 Formica pallidefulva

 Camponotus pennsylvanicus


#15 Online Ant_Dude2908 - Posted August 7 2019 - 9:54 AM

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It seems almost too good to be true that I would have so much success with a genus I always heard was full of brood-eating, acid-spraying nervous wrecks.


When most people say this, they really mean Coptoformica and Raptiformica, the parasitic Formica. They are exactly what you said: nervous wrecks. But Serviformica are not, in my experience.

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#16 Offline Antennal_Scrobe - Posted August 7 2019 - 10:01 AM

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Oh, good! So how long will it take for an egg to grow to an adult worker. The temperature is about 73-75 F consistently, sometimes higher or lower.


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 Tetramorium immigrans

 Temnothorax curvispinosus

 Camponotus nearcticus

 Lasius aphidicola

 Formica pallidefulva

 Camponotus pennsylvanicus


#17 Online Ant_Dude2908 - Posted August 7 2019 - 10:02 AM

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About a month and a half.
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#18 Offline Antennal_Scrobe - Posted August 7 2019 - 3:16 PM

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So I will have workers by early September.


Currently keeping:

 

 Tetramorium immigrans

 Temnothorax curvispinosus

 Camponotus nearcticus

 Lasius aphidicola

 Formica pallidefulva

 Camponotus pennsylvanicus


#19 Offline Antennal_Scrobe - Posted August 10 2019 - 10:47 AM

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All queens have some brood, but the co-op test tube has a colossal pile of larvae.  

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Currently keeping:

 

 Tetramorium immigrans

 Temnothorax curvispinosus

 Camponotus nearcticus

 Lasius aphidicola

 Formica pallidefulva

 Camponotus pennsylvanicus






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