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Kellakk's Dorymyrmex bicolor Journal (Updated 6-10-15) (discontinued)


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#1 Offline kellakk - Posted March 16 2015 - 10:26 PM

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3-6-15

 

I caught 13 dealates from the flight on this day.  Since the queens were very receptive of each other, I set up some polygynous (4,3, and 2 queens) and some monogynous in agar-base test tubes. I think from now on I'll use agar tubes for any good diggers and normal tubes for anything else.

 

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Edited by kellakk, June 10 2015 - 9:56 PM.

Current Species:
Camponotus fragilis

Novomessor cockerelli

Pogonomyrmex montanus

Pogonomyrmex rugosus

Manica bradleyi

 

 


#2 Offline kellakk - Posted March 16 2015 - 10:28 PM

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3-17-15

 

1 of the monogynous died, and all three in one of the polygynous tubes died. The rest have laid eggs, though.  The polygynous queens have huge egg piles.


Current Species:
Camponotus fragilis

Novomessor cockerelli

Pogonomyrmex montanus

Pogonomyrmex rugosus

Manica bradleyi

 

 


#3 Offline Foogoo - Posted March 18 2015 - 8:28 AM

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Have yours been digging in the agar? Both my dealates don't look too comfortable in their test tubes and I thought I had seen an egg but it may have been eaten. Their gasters also appear quite thin, will they accept food or do they depend on workers to feed them?


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#4 Offline kellakk - Posted March 18 2015 - 11:13 AM

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Only a couple of mine have dug into the agar.  I think in the future I'll set up this species in a normal test tubes.  Just to be safe, I fed mine, but I can't tell if they ate or not.


Current Species:
Camponotus fragilis

Novomessor cockerelli

Pogonomyrmex montanus

Pogonomyrmex rugosus

Manica bradleyi

 

 


#5 Offline Miles - Posted March 18 2015 - 4:13 PM

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Did it rain the day before?


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#6 Offline kellakk - Posted March 18 2015 - 9:07 PM

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Yes, it rained the day before they flew.


Current Species:
Camponotus fragilis

Novomessor cockerelli

Pogonomyrmex montanus

Pogonomyrmex rugosus

Manica bradleyi

 

 


#7 Offline Foogoo - Posted March 19 2015 - 6:21 PM

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Have you fed or done anything else with your bicolor queens? I think mine are eating the eggs they've laid. The insanus queens all have nice piles of eggs.


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#8 Offline kellakk - Posted March 19 2015 - 9:12 PM

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I fed them as I do all my queens.  I figure it doesn't hurt to give them some food, even if they don't eat it.  My polygynous queens have so many eggs...  I need to take a picture of it.


Current Species:
Camponotus fragilis

Novomessor cockerelli

Pogonomyrmex montanus

Pogonomyrmex rugosus

Manica bradleyi

 

 


#9 Offline kellakk - Posted March 21 2015 - 9:26 AM

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I took pictures of all the eggs.  The tube in the first picture has 4 queens, the second has 2.  One of the queens in the first picture is also obstructing at least 10 more eggs.

 

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Edited by kellakk, March 21 2015 - 9:27 AM.

Current Species:
Camponotus fragilis

Novomessor cockerelli

Pogonomyrmex montanus

Pogonomyrmex rugosus

Manica bradleyi

 

 


#10 Offline kellakk - Posted April 3 2015 - 5:37 AM

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4-3-15

 

Every single one of my queens has now died.  I can't think of any reason for their deaths, which makes it even more disappointing.  Hopefully they fly again this year and I don't miss it, I really like how this species looks.


Edited by kellakk, June 10 2015 - 11:23 PM.

Current Species:
Camponotus fragilis

Novomessor cockerelli

Pogonomyrmex montanus

Pogonomyrmex rugosus

Manica bradleyi

 

 


#11 Offline dspdrew - Posted April 3 2015 - 6:01 AM

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Well that certainly sucks. Did they all die at once, or was it gradual?



#12 Offline kellakk - Posted April 3 2015 - 6:37 AM

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They died off one by one, and then all 4 queens in one test tube died at once.


Current Species:
Camponotus fragilis

Novomessor cockerelli

Pogonomyrmex montanus

Pogonomyrmex rugosus

Manica bradleyi

 

 


#13 Offline Foogoo - Posted April 3 2015 - 9:28 AM

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Dang, sorry to hear. I have one left but I don't think she's fertile. I'm going back to where I found them to try and fine where the colony moved to.


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#14 Offline BinaryAnt - Posted April 3 2015 - 9:38 AM

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It's possible they could've killed each other. When I was catching freshly mated queens, I kept them together in a single container until I noticed they started fighting with one another. I had to separate them in their own individual containers so they wouldn't kill each other before I got home. One did end up dying by way of decapitation.



#15 Offline kellakk - Posted April 3 2015 - 6:59 PM

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I'm almost positive these ants are polygynous, but regardless I don't think they killed each other.  I never saw any signs of aggression, and I looked at them nearly daily.  They also had a large combined egg pile at one point, which wouldn't have come together without some sort of cooperation.


Current Species:
Camponotus fragilis

Novomessor cockerelli

Pogonomyrmex montanus

Pogonomyrmex rugosus

Manica bradleyi

 

 


#16 Offline Vendayn - Posted April 3 2015 - 9:36 PM

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They are multiple queened species. The nest way up the road has TONS of queens in the nest. So, would be a bit weird they'd fight. My colony was good, but they escaped. But before that happened, the queens were living together and had produced a huge amount of brood. There wasn't any conflict at all.

 

Its possible they need soil or something like Pogonomyrmex do. I personally found they did a lot better in a substrate nest than a test tube. Granted, I only got them when they already had a bunch of workers...not when they were just queens by themselves.


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#17 Offline Foogoo - Posted April 3 2015 - 9:56 PM

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For species with multiple queens, are they typically all fertile?


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#18 Offline Vendayn - Posted April 3 2015 - 10:00 PM

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Mine must have been. They had over 1,000 eggs in less than a week. Maybe a bit less, but it was a lot. My container, the bottom of it was covered in piles and piles of eggs in one massive cavern. Forgot how many queens I had, but it was over 10. I doubt that was done by one queen.

 

Once I get fluon, it will be a lot easier to keep ants. No more escaping ants and I'm more free to use a larger selection of containers.

Dorymyrmex bicolor are really awesome ants though, and grow super quick if you get "too many" queens. :P They are super fast though, so hard to keep without a proper barrier.



#19 Offline kellakk - Posted April 23 2015 - 6:30 PM

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4-23-15

 

On April 10, I collected a wild colony of this species from Chino Hills.  I dug down about 8 inches under a rock to find a queen and some brood. They are now nesting in a test tube with dirt beneath them.  They don't seem to like eating very much; whenever I put liquids in there they put dirt on it, and they will attack insects I put in there but won't eat them.


Current Species:
Camponotus fragilis

Novomessor cockerelli

Pogonomyrmex montanus

Pogonomyrmex rugosus

Manica bradleyi

 

 


#20 Offline kellakk - Posted June 10 2015 - 9:57 PM

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The queen of the wild-caught colony died. It's a shame, there was a large pile of brood and males started popping up too.

 

I really like this species now, and I hope they fly again this year.  If not, they're a big target for me next year.


Edited by kellakk, June 10 2015 - 10:06 PM.

Current Species:
Camponotus fragilis

Novomessor cockerelli

Pogonomyrmex montanus

Pogonomyrmex rugosus

Manica bradleyi

 

 





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