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How do ants deal with rain?


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#1 Offline ANTdrew - Posted May 16 2019 - 4:41 PM

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I’m wondering how soil nesting ants cope with heavy rains? Beyond nesting under rocks, how do they prevent flooding and tunnel collapses? I’d like to know to figure out the best way to hydrate an ant vivarium I just set up. Thanks!
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#2 Offline Leo - Posted May 17 2019 - 1:10 AM

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Well depends. Most species I have no idea, but harpegnathos nests on mountainsides with a funneled entrance to prevent water getting in. They then have a chamber above the chamber behind the entrance which is coated in discarded pupae shells, which is where the queens and brood are. This makes them really easy to collect.



#3 Offline Serafine - Posted May 17 2019 - 2:07 AM

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Ants from areas with regular floodings will quickly evactuate the nest (that's where the lemon myth comes from), some of them forming rafts that swim on the surface (Solenopsis fire ants can do this and apparently Formica wood ants (rufa group) are capable of doing the same). Most other ants will just wait for the water to sicker away through the ground - many ants can survive submerged for hours or even days. Ants in particularly rainy areas also often adapt their nest entrances, creating funnels or other designs to reduce water income (Pogonomyrmex ants put a lot of small pebbles close to their entrances which interact with water surface tension and keep the nest area much drier than the regular ground).


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#4 Offline NickAnter - Posted May 19 2019 - 2:44 PM

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In my backyard, there are cracks in the concrete, filled with dirt that a few species nest in. When it rains, or pool water splashes out over their nests and floods the area, this flooding will generally clog/collapse
the entrances. It is also possible that they themselves plug the entrances at the first sign of flooding.

Edited by NickAnter, May 19 2019 - 2:47 PM.

Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


#5 Offline NickAnter - Posted May 19 2019 - 2:46 PM

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Also, what is the lemon myth you mentioned Serafine?

Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 


#6 Offline Zeiss - Posted May 19 2019 - 3:00 PM

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Also, what is the lemon myth you mentioned Serafine?

People think lemon juice makes ants come out of their nest, when in reality it's usually just a response to their nest appearing to flood that drives them to the surface.



#7 Offline NickAnter - Posted May 19 2019 - 5:22 PM

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Thank you!

Hi there! I went on a 6 month or so hiatus, in part due, and in part cause of the death of my colonies. 

However, I went back to the Sierras, and restarted my collection, which is now as follows:

Aphaenogaster uinta, Camponotus vicinus, Camponotus modoc, Formica cf. aserva, Formica cf. micropthalma, Formica cf. manni, Formica subpolita, Formica cf. subaenescens, Lasius americanus, Manica invidia, Pogonomyrmex salinus, Pogonomyrmex sp. 1, Solenopsis validiuscula, & Solenopsis sp. 3 (new Sierra variant). 





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