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Odontomacus sp moving out Pupa to out world


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#1 Offline Dnail - Posted April 29 2019 - 3:32 AM

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My odontomacus queen moving out her pupa to out world. anyone know why she do this?

I have 2 colony, and both are doing this. they didn't doing this when they have 1st worker.


Colony:

2 Odontomachus aciculatus 

2 Polyrachis Dives

3 Camponotus sp


#2 Offline Acutus - Posted April 29 2019 - 6:58 AM

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I'm new at this so what I say may not be correct but are just my thoughts. I don't really know anything about the species you have. However should the Outworld be that wet? What are the conditions like inside the tubes? May the Pupae need more humidity or is it less humid in the outworld because of the bigger space?

Like I said I'm very new to this Ant stuff but wanted to try and help. :)


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#3 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted April 29 2019 - 7:01 AM

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Well, it does look like the outworld is a bit wet, but that may not be the problem. Do the colonies have any workers? How well ventilated is the outworld?

#4 Offline Dnail - Posted April 29 2019 - 7:18 AM

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1 with 3 worker, 1 only queen with 3 pupa (photo from this one)
usually i close it like the photo above, it have small hole around diameter of test tube with steel screen on top of it.
i open it every 2-3 days to feed them.

 

it wet because i see video in youtube say they like it wet, but may be it's too wet
 


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Colony:

2 Odontomachus aciculatus 

2 Polyrachis Dives

3 Camponotus sp


#5 Offline TennesseeAnts - Posted April 29 2019 - 8:04 AM

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Yeah, too wet.



#6 Offline Rstheant - Posted April 29 2019 - 2:20 PM

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Maybe it’s not warm enough, and they are thermo-regulating the brood? You need to dry the outworld though, its really wet.

#7 Offline ponerinecat - Posted April 29 2019 - 2:24 PM

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outworld looks like mud...



#8 Offline Wedge - Posted April 30 2019 - 3:56 PM

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I have a few O. brunneus colonies and I had the same thing happen when the colones were getting started.  I was keeping them too wet and my theory was that the pupae were probably getting mold or bacterial infections inside the pupae and the queen could tell and kicked them out. After I let the colonies dry out a bit I had much better success and didn't have this happen any more.


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#9 Offline Superant33 - Posted May 1 2019 - 2:03 AM

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What wedge said

#10 Offline Dnail - Posted May 13 2019 - 2:36 AM

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I have a few O. brunneus colonies and I had the same thing happen when the colones were getting started.  I was keeping them too wet and my theory was that the pupae were probably getting mold or bacterial infections inside the pupae and the queen could tell and kicked them out. After I let the colonies dry out a bit I had much better success and didn't have this happen any more.

thanks, i dried their outworld now.
 

after a while of observing, i know they do this to pupae that want to emerge. so i don't think its because of mold but its clearly because of its too wet. the real reason is still mystery
they take back the pupae when i open the lid too, if it was kicked out it won't happen right?


Colony:

2 Odontomachus aciculatus 

2 Polyrachis Dives

3 Camponotus sp





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