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Cardiocondyla? Temnothorax? Need help


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#1 Offline Wedge - Posted January 22 2019 - 6:31 PM

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I have had these for a while and originally thought they were Cardiocondyla, but I'm really not sure. Then I was thinking Temnothorax the more I was looking at them. I could be way off either way. Any ideas?

 

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Edited by Wedge, January 22 2019 - 7:09 PM.

Current Colonies:

Camponotus festinatus, Camponotus sansabaenus, Camponotus sayi, Camponotus texanus, Camponotus vicinus, Leptogenys elongata, Monomorium minimum, Pachycondyla harpax, Pheidole dentata, Pheidole floridana, 


#2 Offline gcsnelling - Posted January 22 2019 - 6:36 PM

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Definitely not Cardiocondyla, likely Temnothorax.


Edited by gcsnelling, January 22 2019 - 6:37 PM.

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#3 Offline Wedge - Posted January 22 2019 - 7:12 PM

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Thanks. I'll start looking there more to try and figure out the species.


Current Colonies:

Camponotus festinatus, Camponotus sansabaenus, Camponotus sayi, Camponotus texanus, Camponotus vicinus, Leptogenys elongata, Monomorium minimum, Pachycondyla harpax, Pheidole dentata, Pheidole floridana, 


#4 Offline Mdrogun - Posted January 23 2019 - 7:07 PM

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Have you considered the possibility of Tetramorium bicarinatum? Location would be perfect for them, as I hear they are quite common in certain Florida localities. They look much closer to those than Temnothorax or Cardiocondyla imo


Edited by Mdrogun, January 23 2019 - 7:11 PM.

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Currently Keeping:
Trachymyrmex septentrionalis

Pheidole pilifera

Forelius sp. (Monogynous, bicolored) "Midwestern Forelius"
Crematogaster cerasi

Pheidole bicarinata

Aphaenogaster rudis

Camponotus chromaiodes

Formica sp. (microgena species)

Nylanderia cf. arenivega


#5 Offline gcsnelling - Posted January 24 2019 - 3:19 AM

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In looking at them again, I agree that Tetramorium is a better option as well.



#6 Offline Major - Posted January 24 2019 - 6:08 PM

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I think Temnothorax, possibly Temnothorax Curvispinosus. Could also be Tetramorium Bicarinatum.

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#7 Offline Aaron567 - Posted January 24 2019 - 6:58 PM

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Definitely a Tetramorium species, but to me it looks more like Tetramorium caldarium than bicarinatumT. caldarium looks just like a miniature version of bicarinatum with slightly different body proportions and not as much sculpturing on their heads. If so, the workers should be about 2 millimeters in total length. T. simillimum is another possibility but I'm pretty sure caldarium are more likely to have this coloration (simillimum are usually pale orange).


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#8 Offline Wedge - Posted January 25 2019 - 5:39 PM

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Thanks everyone! I agree with what you all have said and I appreciate the help.  When I checked out Tetramorium bicarinatum they definitely looked much more similar to what I have than members of the other genera I was looking at, but were too big. I came across T. simillimum and thought they were a likely candidate based on the pictures of queens I came across.  Looking now at pictures of what I can find for T. caldarium, I agree that this may be the most likely species. Thanks Aaron for leading me to these.  


Edited by Wedge, January 25 2019 - 5:43 PM.

Current Colonies:

Camponotus festinatus, Camponotus sansabaenus, Camponotus sayi, Camponotus texanus, Camponotus vicinus, Leptogenys elongata, Monomorium minimum, Pachycondyla harpax, Pheidole dentata, Pheidole floridana, 





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