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Mettcollsuss's Formica obscuriventris Journal

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#1 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted January 4 2019 - 11:44 AM

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Yesterday I did some trading and got a Formica obscuriventris queen with 6 host workers. I think the workers are F. subaenescens, but they could also be F. subsericea minors. The colony doesn't have any brood yet, but they're all acting healthy and the workers are very attracted to and protective of the queen, which is a good sign.

 

The F. obscuriventris queen is really beautiful. Her abdomen is shiny black and her head is mostly red with black around ocelli and the antennal scrobe (I think that's what it's called). But my favorite part is the red and black pattern on the thorax. I also like how the legs fad from red to black.

 

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#2 Offline Manitobant - Posted January 4 2019 - 12:23 PM

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Nice! I find these ants where i live but sadly i can't find any queens. But our area is overrun with formica aserva though.
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#3 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted January 16 2019 - 6:29 AM

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The workers and queen are acting even more connected as time goes on, which is good. Still no eggs yet, but I have been feeding them fruit flies and fruit fly larvae, so hopefully eggs will come soon. I really hope the queen is fertile.



#4 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted January 20 2019 - 1:24 PM

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#5 Offline Ant_Dude2908 - Posted January 20 2019 - 3:40 PM

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Great looking queen!
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Camponotus subbarbatus

 

Camponotus chromaiodes

 

Crematogaster ashmeadi

 

 

 

Ants I've found (in TN) : Aphaenogaster rudis, Aphaenogaster tenneseenis, Brahcyponera chinesis, Camponotus subbarbatus, Camponotus chromaiodes, Camponotus pennsylvanicus, Camponotus snellingi, Crematogaster ashmeadi, Crematogaster lineolata, Crematogaster cerasi, all Temnothorax spp., Solenopsis invicta, Solenopsis xyloni, Stigmatomma pallipes, all Strumigenys spp.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


#6 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted January 26 2019 - 6:27 PM

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WE HAVE EGGS!

 

I count three so far. Each egg has a worker "assigned" to it who constantly holds it and cleans it. The three egg-holding workers are huddled together close to the queen. I'm really excited for them.


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#7 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted January 27 2019 - 8:40 AM

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4 eggs now


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#8 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted January 28 2019 - 2:48 PM

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They now have about 15-20 eggs sitting in a pile. They all look healthy. I'm really excited about this colony.


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#9 Offline AntsBC - Posted January 29 2019 - 5:13 PM

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I'm doubtful of her identification. With so, so many parasitic Formica spp. in the F. rufa group, I wouldn't be so quick to call her F. obscuriventris. To me at least, she looks too small and glossy to be them. I would suggest to revise her identification once she gets her second generation of workers. 

 

That being said, great job with this colony! Impressive to see her egg count jump up so quickly! Personally, I'm still waiting on my Formica cf. fossaceps queen to lay her first eggs  :whistle:


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#10 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted January 31 2019 - 11:17 AM

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More and more eggs. About 30 now. I fed them a small cricket head, which they were eager about.

 

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#11 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted February 8 2019 - 6:03 AM

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I fed them some Sunburst nectar, and they drank until all the workers and the queen look like they're about to burst.

Larvae have started hatching! They don't really keep their brood in pile, it's more like a ball. Their ball of eggs and small larvae is almost as big as the queen.
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#12 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted February 13 2019 - 5:42 AM

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And now we've got some mid-size size larvae. There's about 3 mid size larvae, 5 small-med larvae, and 5 small larvae, plus like 10 eggs. I'll looks like most of the eggs the queen laid were trophic eggs and were eaten by the larvae.
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#13 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted February 20 2019 - 5:56 AM

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They have their first pupae! It's a bit smaller than I expected, but I'm still excited.
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#14 Offline Ant_Dude2908 - Posted February 20 2019 - 9:27 AM

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Aphaenogater tenneseenis                      Ant_Dude2908's Antkeeping Supply Shop                    Tennessee Anting Thread

 

Brachyponera chinesis

 

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Camponotus chromaiodes

 

Crematogaster ashmeadi

 

 

 

Ants I've found (in TN) : Aphaenogaster rudis, Aphaenogaster tenneseenis, Brahcyponera chinesis, Camponotus subbarbatus, Camponotus chromaiodes, Camponotus pennsylvanicus, Camponotus snellingi, Crematogaster ashmeadi, Crematogaster lineolata, Crematogaster cerasi, all Temnothorax spp., Solenopsis invicta, Solenopsis xyloni, Stigmatomma pallipes, all Strumigenys spp.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


#15 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted February 27 2019 - 6:03 AM

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3 pupae at the moment.

#16 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted March 1 2019 - 6:11 AM

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I still can't get over how pretty this queen is

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#17 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted March 7 2019 - 5:14 AM

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And we have our first obscuriventris worker! She's still super pale and hasn't even fully uncurled. The host workers are constantly cleaning and helping her wake up. I'll add photos once her pigment comes in. The other ones should follow soon!
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#18 Offline Ant_Dude2908 - Posted March 7 2019 - 5:35 AM

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Congrats! I have been keeping Formica for almost three years, and still haven't gotten a parasitic colony to get past larvae.
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Aphaenogaster rudis

 

Aphaenogater tenneseenis                      Ant_Dude2908's Antkeeping Supply Shop                    Tennessee Anting Thread

 

Brachyponera chinesis

 

Camponotus subbarbatus

 

Camponotus chromaiodes

 

Crematogaster ashmeadi

 

 

 

Ants I've found (in TN) : Aphaenogaster rudis, Aphaenogaster tenneseenis, Brahcyponera chinesis, Camponotus subbarbatus, Camponotus chromaiodes, Camponotus pennsylvanicus, Camponotus snellingi, Crematogaster ashmeadi, Crematogaster lineolata, Crematogaster cerasi, all Temnothorax spp., Solenopsis invicta, Solenopsis xyloni, Stigmatomma pallipes, all Strumigenys spp.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


#19 Offline Mettcollsuss - Posted March 7 2019 - 2:21 PM

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The parasitic worker or starting to walk around, although very clumsily. She's still lacking a lot of pigment, but I can already see that her gaster is pretty dark compared to the rest of her.
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#20 Offline Rstheant - Posted March 7 2019 - 3:39 PM

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These have similar coloration to the Acromyrmex species.
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