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Hibernation Experiment

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#1 Offline Ant_Dude2908 - Posted December 2 2018 - 10:43 AM

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I am hibernating one C. chromaides colony for the preferred three months, and one for two. I am going to record the experiment here as it goes on. It is to see if hibernation for two months is sufficient for good colony growth next year. I will be adding the second colony in January when their three months is up.

(Sorry if this doesn't make sense, I am terrible at explaining things!)

Edited by Ant_Dude2908, December 2 2018 - 10:44 AM.

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#2 Offline Kalidas - Posted December 2 2018 - 10:47 AM

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It made sense to me. Can C. chromaides still have a good year with only two months of hibernating as upposed to the normal 3 months that is recommended. Good luck can't wait to see the results. What's your hypothesis?
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#3 Offline Ant_Dude2908 - Posted December 2 2018 - 1:12 PM

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I don't think there will be a huge difference in development, but we will have to wait and see!
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#4 Offline sirjordanncurtis - Posted December 2 2018 - 7:12 PM

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Are they at the same sizes?



#5 Offline CampoKing - Posted December 11 2018 - 11:15 AM

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Wish I could find the post, either on here or AntsCanada, somebody tested a crap ton of colonies from one month to seven months and seemed convinced that 4 months is a sweet spot for most. I'm personally doing 4 months for my C. pennsylvanicus colonies.
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#6 Offline Ant_Dude2908 - Posted December 12 2018 - 6:02 AM

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They both have the same amount of workers.
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#7 Offline ConcordAntman - Posted January 3 2019 - 2:25 PM

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Wish I could find the post, either on here or AntsCanada, somebody tested a crap ton of colonies from one month to seven months and seemed convinced that 4 months is a sweet spot for most. I'm personally doing 4 months for my C. pennsylvanicus colonies.

I think this might have been the thread you were talking about http://www.formicult...to-hibernation/
Look at #12 (Crystals’ post).

#8 Offline Ant_Dude2908 - Posted January 5 2019 - 5:10 PM

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Well the one with 2 months has a pupa and a bunch of larvae. Then one with 3 months is close behind at the larvae stage.
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#9 Offline Mdrogun - Posted January 6 2019 - 6:36 AM

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Wish I could find the post, either on here or AntsCanada, somebody tested a crap ton of colonies from one month to seven months and seemed convinced that 4 months is a sweet spot for most. I'm personally doing 4 months for my C. pennsylvanicus colonies.

It is going to vary heavily depending on the genus, species, and where the ants are found. Obviously ants in Tennessee don't have the same hibernation requirements as ants in Ottawa. Camponotus are also special because they don't rely entirely on temperature for hibernation. They can, and will, still hibernate at room temperature.


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Ready for Nuptial flights!


#10 Offline CampoKing - Posted January 19 2019 - 4:36 PM

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Wish I could find the post, either on here or AntsCanada, somebody tested a crap ton of colonies from one month to seven months and seemed convinced that 4 months is a sweet spot for most. I'm personally doing 4 months for my C. pennsylvanicus colonies.

 

Funny thing, I just found this article about diapause in carpenter ants *after* I have nearly finish hibernating my colonies: https://doi.org/10.1....1992.tb01188.x

Turns out that black carpenter ants, which is what I keep, are perfectly capable of hibernating well near freezing and below :/  In fact, my strategy of hibernating them at a mild 46F may have been harmful, as it could have been simply too warm for a species like this.

Live and learn!


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#11 Offline YsTheAnt - Posted January 19 2019 - 5:22 PM

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Just because they can survive, does not mean it is reccomended. 46F is perfectly fine for hibernation and I have yet to see any experienced antkeeper reccomended lower temperatures.

#12 Offline CampoKing - Posted January 19 2019 - 6:29 PM

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Just because they can survive, does not mean it is reccomended. 46F is perfectly fine for hibernation and I have yet to see any experienced antkeeper reccomended lower temperatures.

 

Well I'm also curious if these other antkeepers are dealing with C. pennsylvanicus.  My experience so far is that my pennsylvanicus colonies are still somewhat active and responsive at 46F.  I feel like that should not be the case.


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